https://reprap.org/mediawiki/api.php?action=feedcontributions&user=Dfk20012002&feedformat=atomRepRap - User contributions [en]2024-03-28T17:37:23ZUser contributionsMediaWiki 1.30.0https://reprap.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=User:Dfk20012002&diff=147036User:Dfk200120022015-04-10T10:42:41Z<p>Dfk20012002: </p>
<hr />
<div>Here is info about me, my goals, status<br />
<br />
== Profile ==<br />
*'''Name:''' David<br />
*'''Country:''' Canada<br />
*'''Schooling:''' Currently attending University<br />
*'''Field of Study:''' Combined Computer Science and Business Management<br />
<br />
== My Goals: ==<br />
*Lifelong - Learn More.<br />
*To contribute to the RepRap community<br />
<br />
*by June 2015 - Finish my build of a [[Prusa_Mendel]] variant (240x350x260), and post a build log online<br />
*by June 2015 - To build a x-axis Reprap that has quickly Interchangeable/Multiple Tool-heads.<br />
** vertical x axis based, with quick connection being similar to cartridges for printers, the hotend will clip into a groove on the bottom of the carriage and the top will either clip into place or have a imple thumb nut to hold in place. The filament drive will be one of three options: Bowden with a quick slip off coupling, direct with motor mounted on backside of carriage between bars, or shaft driven direct<br />
*by October 2015 - Design / test simple circuit board cutter for above<br />
*by December 2015 - Complete a PBX recycled cabinet reprap<br />
*by December 2015 - Implement my [[Shaft_Driven_Extruder]] concept from 2011, and post results. <br />
<br />
== Stretch Goals, for projects I am interested in ==<br />
* [[SpoolHead]]<br />
* examine newer ideas on Bowden extruder that indicate: constant filament pressure from bowden drive prevents drag problems from the filament as the x axis moves.<br />
* help the development of a [[Basic_Sewing_Machine]] / Embroidery attachment for the RepRap.<br />
* dual independent x carriage and extrusion, possibly will be useful for multi-part or material fabrication. Further discussion and research will be needed.<br />
** ^while the physical design is quickly doable, the software and firmware will require alot of time and effort<br />
<br />
== Current Status: ==<br />
'''Acquiring Parts / Starting to Assemble''' <br />
:Here is what I have so far:<br />
<br />
*'''Motors:''' <br />
:100 Sanyo Denki, Nema 17, Bi-Polar 6 wire stepper motors, Type: 102H5208-10U41 , 59oz-in holding torque.<br />
::[[File:Sanyo103H5208.pdf]]<br />
::with a 21 tooth MXL 1/4" wide pulley on each.<br />
::cost me $278/100 = $2.78 for each motor with shipping<br />
::However, getting the data sheet for theses was a royal pain, even at that I still needed to update it.<br />
<br />
:60 T&L International Stepping motor, Bi-Polar 6 wire stepping motor, Type: 42BYG401-06A, apx 31+oz-in holding torque<br />
::with a 28 tooth mxl 1/4 brass pulley on each.<br />
::$300 / 60 = $5 each with shipping, but they still have a gear head and it is the same sad story on ebay $15-40<br />
::the motors sound grainy when turned<br />
<br />
*'''The Brains:''' <br />
:[[Ramps]] 1.4, [[Melzi]], [[Generation_6_Electronics]]<br />
<br />
*'''Motor Drivers:''' <br />
:Ended up getting some polulu motor drivers when they went on sale for my first reprap<br />
:A4988 Polulu drivers<br />
:<br />
::I bought components for [http://www.schmalzhaus.com/EasyDriver/ "EasyDrivers"]<br />
::for when I get around to playing with making circuit boards<br />
::They will provide 750mAmps at 30v per phase<br />
<br />
*'''Structure (aka Frame):''' <br />
:8 Hardened steel rods I salvaged from a bunch of old printers for the slides<br />
:6 3ft 5/16 galvanized Threaded rods<br />
:5/16 nuts<br />
:5/16 external tooth washers<br />
:100+ 1/4 USS washers<br />
:::USS type are NOT CONSISTENT IN THICKNESS(0.51" - 0.90"), they need presorting so they are 0.01" of eachother<br />
:::^ know what, forget presorting, as long as the nuts are in the right spot, the washers can be as big as they want to be.</div>Dfk20012002https://reprap.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=User:Dfk20012002&diff=147035User:Dfk200120022015-04-10T10:37:55Z<p>Dfk20012002: /* My Goals: */ update of my personal goals</p>
<hr />
<div>Here is info about me, my goals, status<br />
<br />
== Profile ==<br />
*'''Name:''' David<br />
*'''Country:''' Canada<br />
*'''Schooling:''' Currently attending University<br />
*'''Field of Study:''' Combined Computer Science and Business Management<br />
<br />
== My Goals: ==<br />
*Lifelong - Learn More.<br />
*To contribute to the RepRap community<br />
<br />
*by June 2015 - Finish my build of a [[Prusa_Mendel]] variant (240x350x260), and post a build log online<br />
*by June 2015 - To build a x-axis Reprap that has quickly Interchangeable/Multiple Tool-heads.<br />
** vertical x axis based, with quick connection being similar to cartridges for printers, the hotend will clip into a groove on the bottom of the carriage and the top will either clip into place or have a imple thumb nut to hold in place. The filament drive will be one of three options: Bowden with a quick slip off coupling, direct with motor mounted on backside of carriage between bars, or shaft driven direct<br />
*by October 2015 - Design / test simple circuit board cutter for above<br />
*by December 2015 - Complete a PBX recycled cabinet reprap<br />
*by December 2015 - Implement my [[Shaft_Driven_Extruder]] concept from 2011, and post results. <br />
<br />
== Stretch Goals, for projects I am interested in ==<br />
* <br />
* examine newer ideas on Bowden extruder that indicate: constant filament pressure from bowden drive prevents drag problems from the filament as the x axis moves.<br />
* help the development of a [[Basic_Sewing_Machine]] / Embroidery attachment for the RepRap.<br />
* dual independent x carriage and extrusion, possibly will be useful for multi-part or material fabrication. Further discussion and research will be needed.<br />
** ^while the physical design is quickly doable, the software and firmware will require alot of time and effort<br />
<br />
== Current Status: ==<br />
'''Acquiring Parts / Starting to Assemble''' <br />
:Here is what I have so far:<br />
<br />
*'''Motors:''' <br />
:100 Sanyo Denki, Nema 17, Bi-Polar 6 wire stepper motors, Type: 102H5208-10U41 , 59oz-in holding torque.<br />
::[[File:Sanyo103H5208.pdf]]<br />
::with a 21 tooth MXL 1/4" wide pulley on each.<br />
::cost me $278/100 = $2.78 for each motor with shipping<br />
::However, getting the data sheet for theses was a royal pain, even at that I still needed to update it.<br />
<br />
:60 T&L International Stepping motor, Bi-Polar 6 wire stepping motor, Type: 42BYG401-06A, apx 31+oz-in holding torque<br />
::with a 28 tooth mxl 1/4 brass pulley on each.<br />
::$300 / 60 = $5 each with shipping, but they still have a gear head and it is the same sad story on ebay $15-40<br />
::the motors sound grainy when turned<br />
<br />
*'''The Brains:''' <br />
:[[Ramps]] 1.4, [[Melzi]], [[Generation_6_Electronics]]<br />
<br />
*'''Motor Drivers:''' <br />
:Ended up getting some polulu motor drivers when they went on sale for my first reprap<br />
:A4988 Polulu drivers<br />
:<br />
::I bought components for [http://www.schmalzhaus.com/EasyDriver/ "EasyDrivers"]<br />
::for when I get around to playing with making circuit boards<br />
::They will provide 750mAmps at 30v per phase<br />
<br />
*'''Structure (aka Frame):''' <br />
:8 Hardened steel rods I salvaged from a bunch of old printers for the slides<br />
:6 3ft 5/16 galvanized Threaded rods<br />
:5/16 nuts<br />
:5/16 external tooth washers<br />
:100+ 1/4 USS washers<br />
:::USS type are NOT CONSISTENT IN THICKNESS(0.51" - 0.90"), they need presorting so they are 0.01" of eachother<br />
:::^ know what, forget presorting, as long as the nuts are in the right spot, the washers can be as big as they want to be.</div>Dfk20012002https://reprap.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Shaft_Driven_Extruder&diff=147030Shaft Driven Extruder2015-04-10T09:52:58Z<p>Dfk20012002: added category</p>
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<div>{{Development<br />
|status = Concept<br />
|name = Shaft driven Extruder<br />
|description = X-axis Shaft driven Extruder<br />
|license = GPL2<br />
|author = Dfk20012002<br />
|reprap = None<br />
|categories = [[:Category:Extruders|Extruders]][[Category:Extruders]]<br />
|cadModel = <br />
|url = <br />
}}<br />
'''Please note this is still being developed and I will add extra information soon'''<br />
[[File:RoughRepRapSplineExtruder.png|400px|thumb|left|Rough Example of a Spline Extruder]]<br />
== Pros and Cons ==<br />
<br />
{| cellpadding="7.5" align="center" <br />
!Design <br />
!Possible Advantage <br />
!Disadvantages <br />
|-<br />
|NO Stepper Motor on Extruder<br />
| <br />
*Lower Weight<br />
*Lower Inertia experienced on extruder <br />
*Faster move speeds<br />
*Better Accuracy<br />
|<br />
*As stepper is farther from drive gear<br />
:there may exist some unknown behaviors<br />
|- <br />
|Stepper Motor Placed on Right of X-axis<br />
|<br />
*Balances Frame weight out<br />
*Frees space near hotend for other goodies<br />
*Possible better distribution of wear on <br />
:threads of z axis (hard to verify this claim) <br />
| <br />
|-<br />
|Shaft Drive <br />
|<br />
*Multiple heads can be driven by the same motor<br />
*Maintains high degree of control at extruder<br />
*Interchangeable Hotends become feasible <br />
:as the motor assembly is out of the way<br />
|<br />
*Might get quickly bogged down if too many heads<br />
*Cost dependent on shaft profile<br />
*Increased complexity for single extruder<br />
|}<br />
<br />
The Premise about this is to reduce the amount of weight on the extruder, a previous approach was to use Bowden cable extruders however some of the claims are that it is unresponsive and elastic in comparison to a traditional extruder. As such by having a shaft driven extruder you wold not have the same problems<br />
<br />
[[File:DriveShaftProfiles.png|400px|thumb|left|Examples of different drive shaft profiles that are available]]<br />
<br />
While there are a multitude of drive shafts out there these are just some of them.<br />
<br />
Ball splines: though the most accurate and best for linear motion as well as rotation are ludicrous in price costing $100+ per 12inchs and the take off gear is about $80<br />
One proposed method of creating them is via a router or dremel tool in a channel cutting groves into a shaft for a cheap replacement, This has not yet been attempted. <br />
<br />
{|class="wikitable" style="margin: 1em auto 1em auto;"<br />
|- style="background-color:#999999;" <br />
! FILE ID#<br />
! TYPE<br />
! DESCRIPTION<br />
! AVAILABLE FORMATS<br />
! CREATED/RESERVED BY<br />
|-<br />
| ReprapSplineExtruder<br />
| OpenScad Code<br />
| These are CAD files for the total OpenScad model.<br />
| [[media:ReprapSplineExtruder.scad|.scad]], [[media:]]<br />
| [[User:Dfk20012002|Dfk20012002]] 13:48, 17 November 2011 (UTC)<br />
|-<br />
|}<br />
<br />
== Considerations / Ideas ==<br />
As I talk with people on the IRC there have been several ideas come up and any name mentions is just a general direction where the idea came from. (might not be a perfect quote)<br />
<br />
From sparr, Replacing the lower support rod with the drive shaft so as to reduce parts needed, the potential problems with this is if the rotation binding on the carriage if there is any slack, but this could be solved with rollers in the filament drive gear or by using ball splines again but they would need to be homemade.<br />
<br />
From peeps, make sure to keep the filament drive gear as small as possible in order to maintain mechanical advantage.<br />
<br />
Possibly use the drive shaft as the filament drive gear itself, if the right shape and size. Possible problem of cutting into the filament and or gumming up the drive shaft.<br />
<br />
Interchangeable hotends almost shaped like printer cartridges, having the power connections be press fit or nearby, this would be a good spot to connect the cartridge in at the top and pull it down to lock like a hinge.</div>Dfk20012002https://reprap.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Shaft_Driven_Extruder&diff=147022Shaft Driven Extruder2015-04-10T09:45:03Z<p>Dfk20012002: update liscense and category</p>
<hr />
<div>{{Development<br />
|status = Concept<br />
|name = Shaft driven Extruder<br />
|description = X-axis Shaft driven Extruder<br />
|license = GPL2<br />
|author = Dfk20012002<br />
|reprap = None<br />
|categories = [[Category:Extruders]]<br />
|cadModel = <br />
|url = <br />
}}<br />
'''Please note this is still being developed and I will add extra information soon'''<br />
[[File:RoughRepRapSplineExtruder.png|400px|thumb|left|Rough Example of a Spline Extruder]]<br />
== Pros and Cons ==<br />
<br />
{| cellpadding="7.5" align="center" <br />
!Design <br />
!Possible Advantage <br />
!Disadvantages <br />
|-<br />
|NO Stepper Motor on Extruder<br />
| <br />
*Lower Weight<br />
*Lower Inertia experienced on extruder <br />
*Faster move speeds<br />
*Better Accuracy<br />
|<br />
*As stepper is farther from drive gear<br />
:there may exist some unknown behaviors<br />
|- <br />
|Stepper Motor Placed on Right of X-axis<br />
|<br />
*Balances Frame weight out<br />
*Frees space near hotend for other goodies<br />
*Possible better distribution of wear on <br />
:threads of z axis (hard to verify this claim) <br />
| <br />
|-<br />
|Shaft Drive <br />
|<br />
*Multiple heads can be driven by the same motor<br />
*Maintains high degree of control at extruder<br />
*Interchangeable Hotends become feasible <br />
:as the motor assembly is out of the way<br />
|<br />
*Might get quickly bogged down if too many heads<br />
*Cost dependent on shaft profile<br />
*Increased complexity for single extruder<br />
|}<br />
<br />
The Premise about this is to reduce the amount of weight on the extruder, a previous approach was to use Bowden cable extruders however some of the claims are that it is unresponsive and elastic in comparison to a traditional extruder. As such by having a shaft driven extruder you wold not have the same problems<br />
<br />
[[File:DriveShaftProfiles.png|400px|thumb|left|Examples of different drive shaft profiles that are available]]<br />
<br />
While there are a multitude of drive shafts out there these are just some of them.<br />
<br />
Ball splines: though the most accurate and best for linear motion as well as rotation are ludicrous in price costing $100+ per 12inchs and the take off gear is about $80<br />
One proposed method of creating them is via a router or dremel tool in a channel cutting groves into a shaft for a cheap replacement, This has not yet been attempted. <br />
<br />
{|class="wikitable" style="margin: 1em auto 1em auto;"<br />
|- style="background-color:#999999;" <br />
! FILE ID#<br />
! TYPE<br />
! DESCRIPTION<br />
! AVAILABLE FORMATS<br />
! CREATED/RESERVED BY<br />
|-<br />
| ReprapSplineExtruder<br />
| OpenScad Code<br />
| These are CAD files for the total OpenScad model.<br />
| [[media:ReprapSplineExtruder.scad|.scad]], [[media:]]<br />
| [[User:Dfk20012002|Dfk20012002]] 13:48, 17 November 2011 (UTC)<br />
|-<br />
|}<br />
<br />
== Considerations / Ideas ==<br />
As I talk with people on the IRC there have been several ideas come up and any name mentions is just a general direction where the idea came from. (might not be a perfect quote)<br />
<br />
From sparr, Replacing the lower support rod with the drive shaft so as to reduce parts needed, the potential problems with this is if the rotation binding on the carriage if there is any slack, but this could be solved with rollers in the filament drive gear or by using ball splines again but they would need to be homemade.<br />
<br />
From peeps, make sure to keep the filament drive gear as small as possible in order to maintain mechanical advantage.<br />
<br />
Possibly use the drive shaft as the filament drive gear itself, if the right shape and size. Possible problem of cutting into the filament and or gumming up the drive shaft.<br />
<br />
Interchangeable hotends almost shaped like printer cartridges, having the power connections be press fit or nearby, this would be a good spot to connect the cartridge in at the top and pull it down to lock like a hinge.</div>Dfk20012002https://reprap.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Shaft_Driven_Extruder&diff=147019Shaft Driven Extruder2015-04-10T09:33:00Z<p>Dfk20012002: /* Pros and Cons */ spelling, remove empty file links</p>
<hr />
<div>{{Development<br />
|status = Concept<br />
|name = Shaft driven Extruder<br />
|description = X-axis Shaft driven Extruder<br />
|license = open everything<br />
|author = Dfk20012002<br />
|reprap = None<br />
|categories = <br />
|cadModel = <br />
|url = <br />
}}<br />
'''Please note this is still being developed and I will add extra information soon'''<br />
[[File:RoughRepRapSplineExtruder.png|400px|thumb|left|Rough Example of a Spline Extruder]]<br />
== Pros and Cons ==<br />
<br />
{| cellpadding="7.5" align="center" <br />
!Design <br />
!Possible Advantage <br />
!Disadvantages <br />
|-<br />
|NO Stepper Motor on Extruder<br />
| <br />
*Lower Weight<br />
*Lower Inertia experienced on extruder <br />
*Faster move speeds<br />
*Better Accuracy<br />
|<br />
*As stepper is farther from drive gear<br />
:there may exist some unknown behaviors<br />
|- <br />
|Stepper Motor Placed on Right of X-axis<br />
|<br />
*Balances Frame weight out<br />
*Frees space near hotend for other goodies<br />
*Possible better distribution of wear on <br />
:threads of z axis (hard to verify this claim) <br />
| <br />
|-<br />
|Shaft Drive <br />
|<br />
*Multiple heads can be driven by the same motor<br />
*Maintains high degree of control at extruder<br />
*Interchangeable Hotends become feasible <br />
:as the motor assembly is out of the way<br />
|<br />
*Might get quickly bogged down if too many heads<br />
*Cost dependent on shaft profile<br />
*Increased complexity for single extruder<br />
|}<br />
<br />
The Premise about this is to reduce the amount of weight on the extruder, a previous approach was to use Bowden cable extruders however some of the claims are that it is unresponsive and elastic in comparison to a traditional extruder. As such by having a shaft driven extruder you wold not have the same problems<br />
<br />
[[File:DriveShaftProfiles.png|400px|thumb|left|Examples of different drive shaft profiles that are available]]<br />
<br />
While there are a multitude of drive shafts out there these are just some of them.<br />
<br />
Ball splines: though the most accurate and best for linear motion as well as rotation are ludicrous in price costing $100+ per 12inchs and the take off gear is about $80<br />
One proposed method of creating them is via a router or dremel tool in a channel cutting groves into a shaft for a cheap replacement, This has not yet been attempted. <br />
<br />
{|class="wikitable" style="margin: 1em auto 1em auto;"<br />
|- style="background-color:#999999;" <br />
! FILE ID#<br />
! TYPE<br />
! DESCRIPTION<br />
! AVAILABLE FORMATS<br />
! CREATED/RESERVED BY<br />
|-<br />
| ReprapSplineExtruder<br />
| OpenScad Code<br />
| These are CAD files for the total OpenScad model.<br />
| [[media:ReprapSplineExtruder.scad|.scad]], [[media:]]<br />
| [[User:Dfk20012002|Dfk20012002]] 13:48, 17 November 2011 (UTC)<br />
|-<br />
|}<br />
<br />
== Considerations / Ideas ==<br />
As I talk with people on the IRC there have been several ideas come up and any name mentions is just a general direction where the idea came from. (might not be a perfect quote)<br />
<br />
From sparr, Replacing the lower support rod with the drive shaft so as to reduce parts needed, the potential problems with this is if the rotation binding on the carriage if there is any slack, but this could be solved with rollers in the filament drive gear or by using ball splines again but they would need to be homemade.<br />
<br />
From peeps, make sure to keep the filament drive gear as small as possible in order to maintain mechanical advantage.<br />
<br />
Possibly use the drive shaft as the filament drive gear itself, if the right shape and size. Possible problem of cutting into the filament and or gumming up the drive shaft.<br />
<br />
Interchangeable hotends almost shaped like printer cartridges, having the power connections be press fit or nearby, this would be a good spot to connect the cartridge in at the top and pull it down to lock like a hinge.</div>Dfk20012002https://reprap.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=User:Dfk20012002&diff=147018User:Dfk200120022015-04-10T09:29:15Z<p>Dfk20012002: /* Current Status: */ some user page updates for myself on materials</p>
<hr />
<div>Here is info about me, my goals, status<br />
<br />
== Profile ==<br />
*'''Name:''' David<br />
*'''Country:''' Canada<br />
*'''Schooling:''' Currently attending University<br />
*'''Field of Study:''' Combined Computer Science and Business Management<br />
<br />
== My Goals: ==<br />
*To build a RepStrap/CNC platform that has quickly Interchangeable/Multiple Tool-heads.<br />
*To contribute to the RepRap community, via wiki, and hopefully The sale of RepRaps kits/parts to help this community grow.<br />
*Learn More than what I already know.<br />
*To help in the development of a basic sewing machine / Embroidery attachment for the RepRap.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
== Current Status: ==<br />
'''Acquiring Parts / Starting to Assemble''' <br />
:Here is what I have so far:<br />
<br />
*'''Motors:''' <br />
:100 Sanyo Denki, Nema 17, Bi-Polar 6 wire stepper motors, Type: 102H5208-10U41 , 59oz-in holding torque.<br />
::[[File:Sanyo103H5208.pdf]]<br />
::with a 21 tooth MXL 1/4" wide pulley on each.<br />
::cost me $278/100 = $2.78 for each motor with shipping<br />
::However, getting the data sheet for theses was a royal pain, even at that I still needed to update it.<br />
<br />
:60 T&L International Stepping motor, Bi-Polar 6 wire stepping motor, Type: 42BYG401-06A, apx 31+oz-in holding torque<br />
::with a 28 tooth mxl 1/4 brass pulley on each.<br />
::$300 / 60 = $5 each with shipping, but they still have a gear head and it is the same sad story on ebay $15-40<br />
::the motors sound grainy when turned<br />
<br />
*'''The Brains:''' <br />
:[[Ramps]] 1.4, [[Melzi]], [[Generation_6_Electronics]]<br />
<br />
*'''Motor Drivers:''' <br />
:Ended up getting some polulu motor drivers when they went on sale for my first reprap<br />
:A4988 Polulu drivers<br />
:<br />
::I bought components for [http://www.schmalzhaus.com/EasyDriver/ "EasyDrivers"]<br />
::for when I get around to playing with making circuit boards<br />
::They will provide 750mAmps at 30v per phase<br />
<br />
*'''Structure (aka Frame):''' <br />
:8 Hardened steel rods I salvaged from a bunch of old printers for the slides<br />
:6 3ft 5/16 galvanized Threaded rods<br />
:5/16 nuts<br />
:5/16 external tooth washers<br />
:100+ 1/4 USS washers<br />
:::USS type are NOT CONSISTENT IN THICKNESS(0.51" - 0.90"), they need presorting so they are 0.01" of eachother<br />
:::^ know what, forget presorting, as long as the nuts are in the right spot, the washers can be as big as they want to be.</div>Dfk20012002https://reprap.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Bed_material&diff=147010Bed material2015-04-10T09:11:05Z<p>Dfk20012002: /* Summary Table - Does it Stick? */ added mdf and glass to table</p>
<hr />
<div>This page is for general information pertaining to both heated and unheated print surfaces. For information specific to heated build surfaces, see the [[Heated_Bed#Surface_Materials | surface materials section of the heated bed page]].<br />
<br />
The '''bed material''' needs to satisfy two somewhat contradictory goals:<br />
* The bed material must stick to the plastic coming out of the extruder; otherwise, the partially-printed part will slide around. Then, the next layer of the part won't be aligned, and you'll have a failed print.<br />
* The bed material must not stick too strongly to the plastic coming out of the extruder. Otherwise you'll create perfectly-printed parts that are impossible to remove from the bed without damaging the bed, the part or both.<br />
<br />
Some bed materials work better than others.<br />
<br />
[[PLA]] and [[ABS]] are the most popular plastics for RepRaps to extrude; ABS seems much pickier than PLA about the surfaces it works on.<br />
<br />
== Summary Table - Does it Stick? == <br />
(please include links to experiences for your rating)<br />
Does it Stick?<br />
{|class="wikitable"<br />
|Bed Material || ABS || PLA || [[Nylon |Nylon-6]] || ABS/Nylon[http://www.3dxtech.com/ion-abs-nylon-alloy-3d-printing-filament/]|| [[Taulman3D 618 Nylon|Nylon-TBridge]] || [[Polycarbonate|PC]] || [[HIPS]] || [[HDPE]] || MDF || Glass<br />
|-<br />
|[[PEI build surface|PEI (Polyetherimide)]] || Yes, 110C || Yes, 50C|| No || Yes, 100C || ?? || ?? || ?? || ?? || ?? || Yes<br />
|-<br />
|3M 2090 Tape || Kind of || Yes, 20C || Yes, 70C || ?? || ?? || ?? || ?? || ?? || No || Yes<br />
|}<br />
<br />
== Experiments with ABS on various bed materials ==<br />
<br />
ABS does not seem to stick to an MDF bed at all.<br />
<br />
*[[PEI build surface|PEI (Polyetherimide)]] Sheet - Works well for ABS, PLA, and apparently a number of other materials. One brand is Ultem sheet which can be vanilla PEI or reinforced with 10%, 20% or 30% glass.<br />
<br />
*BuildTak - This may be PEI sheet reinforced with glass fibre (like Ultem) with heat resistant double sided tape on one side, but don't think there is a definitive statement on this. Good for "50+" prints. Works with ABS, PLA, HIPS, PET Lay Brick , Lay Wood and TPE (flexible filaments). [Apparently nylon and t-glass will stick when used with a thin layer of washable glue stick]<br />
<br />
*Electrical tape - sticks, but not well enough to stop warping.<br />
<br />
*Glass - doesn't stick at all. Might with (sandblasted) glass with ABS dissolved in acetone applied.(sometimes called 'ABS juice') [[http://forums.reprap.org/read.php?4,121996,121996 (1)]]<br />
<br />
*CD-ROMs - sticks well, gives a nice surface finish, but tends to warp. The build area is obviously very limited (and circular!). Are made of Polycarbonate, maybe try some Polycarb sheets? <br />
<br />
*Acrylic Sheet - works! ABS sticks to it quite nicely; I had some warping, but I only used 1.5 mm thick Acrylite FF P99 Acrylic Sheet from Cyro Industries. I've got some thicker materials to test again as soon as I get my extruder running without the flexible drive.<br />
<br />
*1/4 inch Acrylic Sheet - works very well. Strong enough to resist warping. Rafts need to be somewhat weaker than the part; otherwise, removing the part is very difficult.<br />
<br />
*Self-adhesive laminating film - the material used to laminate wallet cards. High durability; sticks to glass well (adhesive side down). Clean with acetone and a little ABS juice; use it with or without heat. It seems to last forever. No warping of parts, but you may need a razor edge to remove the part from the film.<br />
<br />
Wade 2008.10.01<br />
<br />
*Conductive foam (the kind that you use to ship IC chips I have found works very well and you can reuse it as long as your first layer is not deeply embedded.<br />
<br />
Bruce W 2008.10.07<br />
<br />
For HDPE, a good bed is a 'plastic' kitchen chopping board (probably itself made of HDPE). A raft, such as that produced by the skeinforge software, sticks to the bed, provides a base for the product and enables the product to be removed without damage to the bed.<br />
<br />
Jon Wise 2008.11.14<br />
<br />
* Blue (Painter's) Tape<br />
A surprisingly awesome surface. Not enough to stop warping, but relatively cheap and very durable. Some brands even work on a heated bed, so long as you do not attempt to peel them off above room temp (don't try, it's icky).<br />
<br />
"Blue painters tape works fine for me with my heated bed at ~70c. As mentioned, it's very important to wait for the parts to cool though, or else the tape will tear when parts are removed. I miss the flat/smooth surface on the bottom of my prints though." -Pawl<br />
<br />
* Kapton Tape<br />
Another good surface, especially when used with a heated bed. It's not so great on the pocketbook, but with proper handling, it can be a good investment.<br />
<br />
*Plain printer paper<br />
Plain printer paper works well when stuck down with carpet tape. Put a layer of edge-to-edge aluminum tape (saves platform from the carpet tape adhesive), then layer on the carpet tape edge to edge and top with paper. May have slight adherence of paper to bottom of part.<br />
<br />
Walt Z 2013.3.25<br />
<br />
* Office grade adhesive tape<br />
Surprisingly good result. Extremely cheap and available everywhere, works well with heated bed (even at 115C). Printed parts are easy to take off. Almost no warping. Slightly tricky to remove.<br />
<br />
Justin F 2013.11.4<br />
<br />
Painter's tape works nicely except for when your base layer has a small cross-section. If you run into this issue, install the tape sticky-side up. Just make sure the tape is flush with the bed as the tape doesn't stick to the bed unless you have another piece of tape holding it on the bed. If you are so inclined, you can go and buy double-sided painters tape. That would work better.<br />
<br />
* Resin (FR4, thickness 1mm) works very well, even better than Kapton Tape. Can be heated up to 120°C. Sometime needs to be cleaned with acetone. Beware a heated hotend pausing at the surface causing burned and disintegrated spots. If print height is too low at first layer, the surface may be scratched and particles may clog the nozzle.<br />
<br />
Christian T 2014.2.5<br />
<br />
== Experiments with PLA on various bed materials ==<br />
*PEI (Polyetherimide) Sheet, Buildtak -- good adhesion (see above under ABS)<br />
* Kapton Tape<br />
Tested with both an unheated bed, and heated at 50, 60 and 70c. Results were not good. The PLA tends to slip off the tape, resulting in poor sticking of the first few levels. Eventually entire prints would become too loose to continue printing.<br />
* Direct Glass (cold)<br />
Not too bad, but does sometimes struggle to stick. Different glass may have a different finish. My tests on pre-cut tempered glass weren't great.<br />
* Direct Glass (heated)<br />
Heating glass to 60c helps to stick PLA, however again does sometimes have issues sticking the first layer.<br />
* Light-Yellow Masking (Painters) Tape<br />
Heated to 70c for the first 6 layers, then reduced to 50c This works well. Initially I tried without heating the bed but found the PLA would not stick and bunched up into lumps. Heating the tape up does however have the negative effect of the tape itself not sticking to the bed well. Recommendation here is to use something like a ruler before you print, to flatten the tape as much as possible. This was tested with £0.50 Homebase Value Masking Tape and worked well. I recommend having a 1 layer brim around your object to help keep the tape down however. Blue painter's tape appears to be the most common build surface for PLA without a heated bed, although a few people have been unable to get their particular brand to work.<br />
* Pritt-Stick/GlueStick<br />
This didn't work for me on either a heated or non-heated bed. In fact it's probably the worst option I've tried so far. Objects wouldn't stick at all. The only thing it does do is work nicely to clean the glass - leave it on for a couple of hours and then peel it off once it's dried out.<br />
* Glass with PVP GlueStick<br />
This might work well with non-heated bed if your GlueStick content is PVP (Polyvinylpyrrolidone). Such as UHU Stic, 3M Scotch purple glue stic.<br />
* Mat Glass + cold laminators + PVP glue stic<br />
Work excellent with non-heated mat glass bed with stick a layer of the cold laminators + PVP glue on top of the laminators.<br />
Good balanced between sticky on bed & easy to remove. If you have a heating bed, heat to 60 degree for remove.<br />
* Glass with PVA glue (heated)<br />
Apply PVA glue to glass then spread evenly using a small amount of water and a brush. Use the heat from the bed to evaporate the water quickly. You should aim to have a barely visible film on the surface. Heating to 55c makes the parts stick well. After printing parts are difficult to remove, but after cooling they pop off themselves. PVA glue works poorly without heat.<br />
* Ultem Polyetherimide (PEI), (Heated to 60C)<br />
Tested at 60C, worked excellent, better than any other material I have tested. Will not stick at all when unheated. To release parts I either remove the Ultem sheet from my bed or let the bed cool. I am using a 0.040" thick sheet purchased from McMaster (8685K41) attached to an aluminium heated bed, make sure to remove protective film from Ultem sheet (both sides) before using. Bottom surface of part is very flat and shiny. I may try a 1/16" thick sheet as the 0.040 sheet is not perfectly flat (but certainly not bad), the Ultem sheet will bow off my heated plate by a few mils.<br />
* Carbon fiber Vinyl sticker<br />
Tested on a cold bed. Prints stick well but corners warp a little .Overall a good solution<br />
<br />
== Experiments with HDPE on various bed materials ==<br />
<br />
HydraRaptor has done a bunch of experiments with extruding HDPE onto a bunch of different materials<br />
-- pictures at "Sticking point"[http://hydraraptor.blogspot.com/2007/10/sticking-point.html].<br />
<br />
Of those bed materials tested on this (unheated bed) HDPE extruder,<br />
HydraRaptor points out two materials that work well:<br />
* common foamcore (aka "paper-faced foam board") seemed to work the best.<br />
* thin sheet of HDPE cut from a milk bottle: it welds to the extruded HDPE, so you would have to put on a new sheet for every bed of parts you make, but (after trimming) it becomes a smooth strong base for the parts.<br />
<br />
Other researchers find that, even though the outer paper looks fine after the finished plastic part is peeled off, the interior polystyrene foam starts to melt -- is this going to cause problems for the next part printed on that foamcore bed?<br />
<br />
Many people think that the molten plastic "sticks" better to relatively rough surfaces, so the fact that it sticks to the glossy surface of the foamcore is a bit surprising.<br />
<br />
One theory that seems to explain his results:<br />
* When the molten plastic hits a cold bed with high heat capacity or high thermal conductivity, it cools down too fast -- the first tiny point to touch the bed solidifies a (relatively) huge radius of molten plastic around and above it, so relatively few points of molten plastic ever touches the bed, so it doesn't stick and the ends curl up.<br />
* When the molten plastic hits a cold bed with low heat capacity and low thermal conductivity, it cools down slower -- little or none of the plastic around the point of contact immediately hardens, so as the extruder pushes that plastic down, large areas of molten plastic make good contact with the bed, and it sticks.<br />
<br />
And so (at least if you are using an unheated print bed) you want some highly insulating material with low heat capacity as the bulk material of your print bed.<br />
The heat capacity and thermal conductivity of the working surface is irrelevant if that surface is thin enough.<br />
More important characteristics of the working surface of a reusable bed is that it has a higher melting temperature -- so the bed doesn't melt and permanently bond to the plastic part -- and is relatively hard and smooth -- so pieces of that surface don't leave a residue embedded in the bottom surface of the plastic part.<br />
<br />
<br />
== Further reading ==<br />
<br />
* [[Heated Bed]] mentions some materials used for heated beds, but focuses on things beneath the surface -- the heater, the insulation, and the control electronics.<br />
* [[Thick Sheet]] discusses the platform that supports the bed, often a sheet of wood or aluminum, often attached to [[bearing]]s that let it slide on the frame.<br />
* [[Frame material]]<br />
* [[materials]] discusses all materials we've used so far in building RepRaps and RepStraps.<br />
* [[:category:Hot End]] is another place to discuss materials that won't melt when touching molten plastic.<br />
* [[Mendel heated bed]] seems to recommend using a glass bed.<br />
* One researcher[http://reprapbreeding.blogspot.com/2011/01/ceramic-tile-print-bed.html] tried a bed made of a ceramic tile. With the bare tile, PLA did not stick; but PLA seems to work well with tile covered in blue tape.<br />
<br />
[[category:reference]]<br />
[[category:material]]<br />
[[category:heated Bed]]</div>Dfk20012002https://reprap.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=User:Dfk20012002&diff=146382User:Dfk200120022015-03-28T03:26:18Z<p>Dfk20012002: /* Profile */</p>
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<div>Here is info about me, my goals, status<br />
<br />
== Profile ==<br />
*'''Name:''' David<br />
*'''Country:''' Canada<br />
*'''Schooling:''' Currently attending University<br />
*'''Field of Study:''' Combined Computer Science and Business Management<br />
<br />
== My Goals: ==<br />
*To build a RepStrap/CNC platform that has quickly Interchangeable/Multiple Tool-heads.<br />
*To contribute to the RepRap community, via wiki, and hopefully The sale of RepRaps kits/parts to help this community grow.<br />
*Learn More than what I already know.<br />
*To help in the development of a basic sewing machine / Embroidery attachment for the RepRap.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
== Current Status: ==<br />
'''Acquiring Parts / Starting to Assemble''' <br />
:Here is what I have so far:<br />
*'''Motors:''' <br />
:100 Sanyo Denki, Nema 17, Bi-Polar 6 wire stepper motors, Type: 102H5208-10U41 , 59oz-in holding torque.<br />
::[[File:Sanyo103H5208.pdf]]<br />
::with a 21 tooth MXL 1/4" wide pulley on each. Cost: ''PRICELESS steal!''<br />
::cost me $114 bucks for the whole lot. But, shipping and import fees where $165 so it came to $278<br />
::but $278/100 = $2.78 for each motor with shipping... hmmmm. these motors sell at $15-40 on ebay... ($60 new)<br />
::However, getting the data sheet for theses was a royal pain, even at that I still need to update it.<br />
:60 T&L International Stepping motor, Bi-Polar 6 wire stepping motor, Type: 42BYG401-06A, apx 31+oz-in holding torque<br />
::with a 28 tooth mxl 1/4 brass pulley on each. Cost: '''Almost''' a Priceless steal.<br />
::little bit more pricey about $300 with import fees<br />
::$300 / 60 = $5 each with shipping, but they still have a gear head and it is the same sad story on ebay $15-40<br />
::Now data on these was even harder to find but I have some and am going to make a cad scehmatic soon<br />
*'''The Brain (aka BRAINS! or motherboard for the non-Zombie fans):''' <br />
:I purchase a [http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/seeeduino-mega-p-717.html?cPath=132_133&zenid=61ee232a52bb9c8bc4c8ce011a544b3e "Seeedduino mega"] when it was on sale<br />
::I think it is are great so I am planning on using it(even if it is overkill). <br />
*'''Motor Drivers:''' <br />
:I bought components for [http://www.schmalzhaus.com/EasyDriver/ "EasyDrivers"] <br />
::They will provide 750mAmps at 30v per phase<br />
::you can buy them from Sparkfun.com but I wanted to make my own)<br />
:Ended up getting some polulu motor drivers when they went on sale for my first reprap<br />
*'''Structure (aka Frame):''' <br />
:8 Hardened steel rods I salvaged from a bunch of old printers for the slides (free - 2hrs salvage)<br />
:6 3ft 5/16 galvanized Threaded rods ($3 each, got them on sale at princess auto)<br />
:apx 20+ nuts ( DANG expensive at home depot, or home hardware at +$0.26 each, buy them at totem for $0.12 instead)<br />
:100+ 1/4 USS washers (+$0.12 each, so I bought a box of a hundred at $0.05 each instead.)<br />
:::USS type are NOT CONSISTENT IN THICKNESS(0.51" - 0.90"), they need presorting so they are 0.01" of eachother<br />
*'''Corners (aka the pieces that make those annoying angles):''' <br />
:I am cutting the intial ones out of 3/4 MDF which I will seal using wood hardener or glue-water mix.<br />
<br /><br />
So in essence My first reprap will actually be a repstrap/ wolfstrap since it uses wood, but hey it is cheaper than trying to buy the plastic parts since anyone I can find wants to charge a (explicit descriptive here) for them.<br />
<br /> <br /><br />
(The only reason this is not on a development page yet, is because I am still getting parts, taking pictures, procrastinating, assembling stuff, making excuses, writing essays)(OK, it is really cause I havent got to it yet, but I will as soon as the semester is over (around May 2nd)) <br />
Yay! --[[User:Sebastien Bailard|Sebastien Bailard]] 07:05, 11 April 2011 (UTC)</div>Dfk20012002https://reprap.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Shaft_Driven_Extruder&diff=98180Shaft Driven Extruder2013-07-13T06:35:59Z<p>Dfk20012002: /* Pros and Cons */ added to disadvantages area, and some minor changes</p>
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<div>{{Development<br />
|status = Concept<br />
|name = Shaft driven Extruder<br />
|description = X-axis Shaft driven Extruder<br />
|license = open everything<br />
|author = Dfk20012002<br />
|reprap = None<br />
|categories = <br />
|cadModel = <br />
|url = <br />
}}<br />
'''Please note this is still being developed and I will add extra information soon'''<br />
[[File:RoughRepRapSplineExtruder.png|400px|thumb|left|Rough Example of a Spline Extruder]]<br />
== Pros and Cons ==<br />
<br />
{| cellpadding="7.5" align="center" <br />
!Design <br />
!Advantage <br />
!Disadvantages <br />
|-<br />
|NO Stepper Motor on Extruder<br />
| <br />
*Lower Weight<br />
*Lower Inertia experienced on extruder <br />
*Faster move speeds<br />
*Better Accuracy<br />
|<br />
*As stepper is farther from drive gear<br />
:there may exist some unknown behaviors<br />
|- <br />
|Stepper Motor Placed on Right of X-axis<br />
|<br />
*Balances Frame weight out<br />
*Frees space near hotend for other goodies<br />
*Possible better distribution of wear on <br />
:threads of z axis (hard to verify this claim) <br />
| <br />
|-<br />
|Shaft Drive <br />
|<br />
*Multiple heads can be driven by the same motor<br />
*Maintains high degree of control at extruder<br />
*Interchangeable Hotends become feasible <br />
:as the motor assembly is out of the way<br />
|<br />
*Might get quickly bogged down if too many heads<br />
*Cost dependent on shaft profile<br />
*Increased complexity for single extruder<br />
|}<br />
<br />
The Premise about this is to reduce the amount of weight on the extruder, a previous approach was to use Bowden cable extruders however some of the claims are that it is unresponsive and elastic in comparison to a traditional extruder. As such by having a shaft driven extruder you wold not have the same problems<br />
<br />
[[File:DriveShaftProfiles.png|400px|thumb|left|Examples of different drive shaft profiles that are advailable]]<br />
<br />
While there are a multitude of drive shafts out there these are just some of them.<br />
<br />
Ball splines: though the most accurate and best for linear motion as well as rotation are ludicrous in price costing $100+ per 12inchs and the take off gear is about $80<br />
One proposed method of creating them is via a router or dremel tool in a channel cutting groves into a shaft for a cheap replacement, This has not yet been attempted. <br />
<br />
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|- style="background-color:#999999;" <br />
! FILE ID#<br />
! TYPE<br />
! DESCRIPTION<br />
! AVAILABLE FORMATS<br />
! CREATED/RESERVED BY<br />
|-<br />
| ReprapSplineExtruder<br />
| OpenScad Code<br />
| These are CAD files for the total OpenScad model.<br />
| [[media:ReprapSplineExtruder.scad|.scad]], [[media:]]<br />
| [[User:Dfk20012002|Dfk20012002]] 13:48, 17 November 2011 (UTC)<br />
|-<br />
| Your-File-Name<br />
| CAD FILES FOR PARTS<br />
| These are CAD files for the total model.<br />
| [[media:cubic_meter_bot_many_parts.zip|.xml.zip]], [[media:cubic_meter_bot_many_parts.stl.zip|.stl.zip]]<br />
| [[User:|User:]] 12:00, Today's Date 20xx (UTC)<br />
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| These are are even more files.<br />
| [[media:cubic_meter_bot_even_more_files.zip|.xml.zip]], [[media:cubic_meter_bot_even_more_files.stl.zip|.stl.zip]]<br />
| [[User:|User:]] 12:00, Today's Date 20xx (UTC)|-<br />
|}<br />
<br />
== Considerations / Ideas ==<br />
As I talk with people on the IRC there have been several ideas come up and any name mentions is just a general direction where the idea came from. (might not be a perfect quote)<br />
<br />
From sparr, Replacing the lower support rod with the drive shaft so as to reduce parts needed, the potential problems with this is if the rotation binding on the carriage if there is any slack, but this could be solved with rollers in the filament drive gear or by using ball splines again but they would need to be homemade.<br />
<br />
From peeps, make sure to keep the filament drive gear as small as possible in order to maintain mechanical advantage.<br />
<br />
Possibly use the drive shaft as the filament drive gear itself, if the right shape and size. Possible problem of cutting into the filament and or gumming up the drive shaft.<br />
<br />
Interchangeable hotends almost shaped like printer cartridges, having the power connections be press fit or nearby, this would be a good spot to connect the cartridge in at the top and pull it down to lock like a hinge.</div>Dfk20012002https://reprap.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=User:Dfk20012002&diff=57754User:Dfk200120022012-04-27T03:05:42Z<p>Dfk20012002: minor user page update</p>
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<div>Here is info about me, my goals, status<br />
<br />
== Profile ==<br />
(Yes I know, Not everyone likes to be Profiled, but it does help the police find people.)<br />
*'''Name:''' David<br />
*'''Age:''' 25<br />
*'''Country:''' Canada<br />
*'''Province:''' Alberta<br />
*'''City:''' Lethbridge (As if you couldn't get that from my University)<br />
*'''Schooling:''' Currently attending the University of Lethbridge.<br />
*'''Field of Study:''' Combined Computer Science and Business Management w/ Minor in Information Systems.<br />
:::(sounds busy doesn't it?)<br />
*'''Likes:''' almost all Food, Computers, Robotics, Woodworking, Challenges I can learn from, Girls (Of Course).<br />
*'''Dislikes:''' People who willingly cease to use their brains for thought, or anything useful for that matter.<br />
:::Note:''Please donate unused brains to your nearest starving Zombie''<br />
*'''Future Aspirations:''' To start my own technology development company/school. (aka to be a modern day inventor, that actually gets paid)<br />
<br />
<br />
== My Goals: ==<br />
*To build a RepStrap/CNC platform that has quickly Interchangeable/Multiple Tool-heads.<br />
*To contribute to the RepRap community, via wiki, and hopefully The sale of RepRaps kits/parts to help this community grow.<br />
*Learn More than what I already know.<br />
*To help in the development of a basic sewing machine / Embroidery attachment for the RepRap.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
== Current Status: ==<br />
'''Acquiring Parts / Starting to Assemble''' <br />
:Here is what I have so far:<br />
*'''Motors:''' <br />
:100 Sanyo Denki, Nema 17, Bi-Polar 6 wire stepper motors, Type: 102H5208-10U41 , 59oz-in holding torque.<br />
::[[File:Sanyo103H5208.pdf]]<br />
::with a 21 tooth MXL 1/4" wide pulley on each. Cost: ''PRICELESS steal!''<br />
::cost me $114 bucks for the whole lot. But, shipping and import fees where $165 so it came to $278<br />
::but $278/100 = $2.78 for each motor with shipping... hmmmm. these motors sell at $15-40 on ebay... ($60 new)<br />
::However, getting the data sheet for theses was a royal pain, even at that I still need to update it.<br />
:60 T&L International Stepping motor, Bi-Polar 6 wire stepping motor, Type: 42BYG401-06A, apx 31+oz-in holding torque<br />
::with a 28 tooth mxl 1/4 brass pulley on each. Cost: '''Almost''' a Priceless steal.<br />
::little bit more pricey about $300 with import fees<br />
::$300 / 60 = $5 each with shipping, but they still have a gear head and it is the same sad story on ebay $15-40<br />
::Now data on these was even harder to find but I have some and am going to make a cad scehmatic soon<br />
*'''The Brain (aka BRAINS! or motherboard for the non-Zombie fans):''' <br />
:I purchase a [http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/seeeduino-mega-p-717.html?cPath=132_133&zenid=61ee232a52bb9c8bc4c8ce011a544b3e "Seeedduino mega"] when it was on sale<br />
::I think it is are great so I am planning on using it(even if it is overkill). <br />
*'''Motor Drivers:''' <br />
:I bought components for [http://www.schmalzhaus.com/EasyDriver/ "EasyDrivers"] <br />
::They will provide 750mAmps at 30v per phase<br />
::you can buy them from Sparkfun.com but I wanted to make my own)<br />
:Ended up getting some polulu motor drivers when they went on sale for my first reprap<br />
*'''Structure (aka Frame):''' <br />
:8 Hardened steel rods I salvaged from a bunch of old printers for the slides (free - 2hrs salvage)<br />
:6 3ft 5/16 galvanized Threaded rods ($3 each, got them on sale at princess auto)<br />
:apx 20+ nuts ( DANG expensive at home depot, or home hardware at +$0.26 each, buy them at totem for $0.12 instead)<br />
:100+ 1/4 USS washers (+$0.12 each, so I bought a box of a hundred at $0.05 each instead.)<br />
:::USS type are NOT CONSISTENT IN THICKNESS(0.51" - 0.90"), they need presorting so they are 0.01" of eachother<br />
*'''Corners (aka the pieces that make those annoying angles):''' <br />
:I am cutting the intial ones out of 3/4 MDF which I will seal using wood hardener or glue-water mix.<br />
<br /><br />
So in essence My first reprap will actually be a repstrap/ wolfstrap since it uses wood, but hey it is cheaper than trying to buy the plastic parts since anyone I can find wants to charge a (explicit descriptive here) for them.<br />
<br /> <br /><br />
(The only reason this is not on a development page yet, is because I am still getting parts, taking pictures, procrastinating, assembling stuff, making excuses, writing essays)(OK, it is really cause I havent got to it yet, but I will as soon as the semester is over (around May 2nd)) <br />
Yay! --[[User:Sebastien Bailard|Sebastien Bailard]] 07:05, 11 April 2011 (UTC)</div>Dfk20012002https://reprap.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=User:Dfk20012002&diff=55649User:Dfk200120022012-03-09T13:09:07Z<p>Dfk20012002: </p>
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<div>Reprap kits from Southern Alberta.<br />
<br />
<br />
I will have kits, parts, and complete repraps for sale as soon as I am finished developing my current reprap.(hopefully by Dec)<br />
But since it is a pain getting parts here in Alberta(as I had to import almost all my stuff)once I get up and running,<br />
I am willing to cut a price break to anyone who lives in Alberta. But that requires me getting this done quick.<br />
<br />
If you do live in alberta or want to be contacted when this stuff goes down <br />
(cause I will only have enough for about 40kits to start)<br />
<br />
Contact me<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
But in the mean time, Here is info about me, my goals, status<br />
<br />
== Profile ==<br />
(Yes I know, Not everyone likes to be Profiled, but it does help the police find people.)<br />
*'''Name:''' David<br />
*'''Age:''' 25<br />
*'''Country:''' Canada<br />
*'''Province:''' Alberta<br />
*'''City:''' Lethbridge (As if you couldn't get that from my University)<br />
*'''Schooling:''' Currently attending the University of Lethbridge.<br />
*'''Field of Study:''' Combined Computer Science and Business Management w/ Minor in Information Systems.<br />
:::(sounds busy doesn't it?)<br />
*'''Likes:''' almost all Food, Computers, Robotics, Woodworking, Challenges I can learn from, Girls (Of Course).<br />
*'''Dislikes:''' People who willingly cease to use their brains for thought, or anything useful for that matter.<br />
:::Note:''Please donate unused brains to your nearest starving Zombie''<br />
*'''Future Aspirations:''' To start my own technology development company/school. (aka to be a modern day inventor, that actually gets paid)<br />
<br />
<br />
== My Goals: ==<br />
*To build a RepStrap/CNC platform that has quickly Interchangeable/Multiple Tool-heads.<br />
*To contribute to the RepRap community, via wiki, and hopefully The sale of RepRaps kits/parts to help this community grow.<br />
*Learn More than what I already know.<br />
*To help in the development of a basic sewing machine / Embroidery attachment for the RepRap.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
== Current Status: ==<br />
'''Acquiring Parts / Starting to Assemble''' <br />
:Here is what I have so far:<br />
*'''Motors:''' <br />
:100 Sanyo Denki, Nema 17, Bi-Polar 6 wire stepper motors, Type: 102H5208-10U41 , 59oz-in holding torque.<br />
::[[File:Sanyo103H5208.pdf]]<br />
::with a 21 tooth MXL 1/4" wide pulley on each. Cost: ''PRICELESS steal!''<br />
::cost me $114 bucks for the whole lot. But, shipping and import fees where $165 so it came to $278<br />
::but $278/100 = $2.78 for each motor with shipping... hmmmm. these motors sell at $15-40 on ebay... ($60 new)<br />
::However, getting the data sheet for theses was a royal pain, even at that I still need to update it.<br />
:60 T&L International Stepping motor, Bi-Polar 6 wire stepping motor, Type: 42BYG401-06A, apx 31+oz-in holding torque<br />
::with a 28 tooth mxl 1/4 brass pulley on each. Cost: '''Almost''' a Priceless steal.<br />
::little bit more pricey about $300 with import fees<br />
::$300 / 60 = $5 each with shipping, but they still have a gear head and it is the same sad story on ebay $15-40<br />
::Now data on these was even harder to find but I have some and am going to make a cad scehmatic soon<br />
*'''The Brain (aka BRAINS! or motherboard for the non-Zombie fans):''' <br />
:I purchase a [http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/seeeduino-mega-p-717.html?cPath=132_133&zenid=61ee232a52bb9c8bc4c8ce011a544b3e "Seeedduino mega"] when it was on sale<br />
::I think it is are great so I am planning on using it(even if it is overkill). <br />
*'''Motor Drivers:''' <br />
:I bought components for [http://www.schmalzhaus.com/EasyDriver/ "EasyDrivers"] <br />
::They will provide 750mAmps at 30v per phase<br />
::you can buy them from Sparkfun.com but I wanted to make my own)<br />
*'''Structure (aka Frame):''' <br />
:8 Hardened steel rods I salvaged from a bunch of old printers for the slides (free - 2hrs salvage)<br />
:6 3ft 5/16 galvanized Threaded rods ($3 each, got them on sale at princess auto)<br />
:apx 20+ nuts ( DANG expensive at home depot, or home hardware at +$0.26 each, buy them at totem for $0.12 instead)<br />
:100+ 1/4 USS washers (+$0.12 each, so I bought a box of a hundred at $0.05 each instead.)<br />
:::USS type are NOT CONSISTENT IN THICKNESS(0.51" - 0.90"), they need presorting so they are 0.01" of eachother<br />
*'''Corners (aka the pieces that make those annoying angles):''' <br />
:I am cutting the intial ones out of 3/4 MDF which I will seal using wood hardener or glue-water mix.<br />
<br /><br />
So in essence My first reprap will actually be a repstrap/ wolfstrap since it uses wood, but hey it is cheaper than trying to buy the plastic parts since anyone I can find wants to charge a (explicit descriptive here) for them.<br />
<br /> <br /><br />
(The only reason this is not on a development page yet, is because I am still getting parts, taking pictures, procrastinating, assembling stuff, making excuses, writing essays)(OK, it is really cause I havent got to it yet, but I will as soon as summer semester is over (around Aug 16th)) <br />
Yay! --[[User:Sebastien Bailard|Sebastien Bailard]] 07:05, 11 April 2011 (UTC)</div>Dfk20012002https://reprap.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Printing_Material_Suppliers&diff=47795Printing Material Suppliers2011-11-28T21:19:07Z<p>Dfk20012002: </p>
<hr />
<div>=Filament=<br />
<br />
Below is a table listing suppliers of filament. Costs are only approximate and are likely to change. Always check before ordering, and if you can, update this page. If there are any missing fields in the table, please feel free to update. <br />
* Help migrate the remaining reviews to each company review page --> [[Filament supplier reviews]] Thanks.<br />
<br />
==3mm diameter filament==<br />
''Please keep the tables in alphabetical order.''<br />
<br />
{| class="wikitable sortable"<br />
|+ ''3mm dia filament'' ([[FilamentNewSupplierCompanyEntryTemplate|Template]])<br />
|- style="background-color:#f0f0f0;"<br />
! Vendor (with link) !! Shipping location !! Material(s) !! Approximate costs $ € £ /kg !! [[FilamentNewCompanyReviewTemplate|Review]] & Additional notes<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.2printbeta.de 2PrintBeta] || From Germany || [[PLA]],[[ABS]] || €32 - 46/kg || In 100 m and 300m roll. Many colors, glow-in-the-dark, soft PLA and mixed sets are available<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.3dprinterstuff.com/shop/page/4?shop_param= 3D Printer Stuff] || From USA || [[ABS]] || $29 /kg ($15 /lb) || Available in 1lb (0.5kg), 2lb (1kg), and 5lb (2.5kg) spools. Colors : Red, orange, yellow, green, olive, sky blue, navy blue, purple, rust, white, natural, black.<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.bitsfrombytes.com/catalog/materials Bits From Bytes] || From UK || [[ABS]], [[HDPE]], [[LDPE]], [[PLA]], [[PP]], [[uPVC]] || £40 - 47/kg || In 1kg or 2kg rolls depending on material<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.buy3dink.com/ Buy 3D Ink] || From USA || [[ABS]] <br> [[PLA]]|| $12 - 35/kg ($6 - 18/lb) ABS <br> $20 - 35/kg ($10 - 18/lb) PLA|| Black, orange, green, clear<br />
|-<br />
| [http://botmill.com/index.php/materials.html BotMill] || From USA || [[ABS]], [[PLA]] || $20 - 24/kg ($10-12/lb) || Min 1lb (0.5kg) order. Worldwide shipping - Free shipping in USA <br> Large variety of low-cost colored ABS and PLA<br>Terra Cotta, Orange, Light Blue, Olive Drab, Dark Grey<br />
|-<br />
| [http://croxwordz.blogspot.com Croxword] || From Taiwan || [[ABS]] || $17 /kg : $50 per box with 3kg <br> (+$14 Shipping)|| White/Black/Blue/Yellow<br />
|-<br />
| [http://diamondage.co.nz/pla.html Diamond Age Solutions Ltd.] || From NZ || [[PLA]], [[ABS]] || NZ$33 /kg PLA <br> NZ$50 /kg ABS <br> Shipping : $10 to NZ (shipping + GST), ~NZ20$ per roll to Europe/US, less to Australia. || ~0.9kg for a 100 meter roll. Spools avail. Various colours, metallic fx & luminous + parts. 11th roll is free<br/>Contact vik [at] diamondage.co.nz<br />
|-<br />
| [http://esun.en.alibaba.com/product/472333729-212653045/productdetail.html Esun, Alibaba]|| From China || [[PLA]] [[ABS]] || $14 - 19/kg + $5-8/kg freight in 2.5kg PLA reel|| black ,white, transparent,blue,red, yellow,green.pretty color,absolutely round shape,accurate diameter,no bubble,stable viscosity and melting point.<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.faberdashery.co.uk/products-page/ Faberdashery Ltd.] || From UK || [[PLA]] || Sold by the meter - From £0.26/m <br> £24 - 32/kg || An emporium of colored PLA, sold by the meter or in 100m coils <br> Pack with 10m of 10 colors also available (£35)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://fabricationsofthemind.com/shop/abs/ Fabrications Of TheMind] || From UK || [[ABS]] || £20 /kg for 1kg <br> £16 /kg for 2kg (£31.95) <br> £13 /kg for 5kg (£64.95) || None<br />
|-<br />
| [https://shop.grrf.de/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=82_83 German RepRap Foundation] || From Germany || [[ABS]] [[PLA]] || €25-€34/kg : €55-€75 for 2.2kg PLA <br> €22.73/kg : €50 for 2.2kg ABS || On spools for a better unrolling. Worldwide shipping. Also have soft PLA<br />
|-<br />
| [http://kdipolymerspecialists.co.uk KDI Polymer Specialist Ltd] || From UK || [[ABS]], [[PLA]] || £34 - 39/kg || 1kg reel. Translucent green, red and blue, all standard colours available bespoke colours on request <br> All with Free UK Shipping, trade enquiries welcome.<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.kentstrapper.blogspot.com Kent's Strapper] || From Italy (EU) || [[PLA]],[[ABS]] || €45 , a partire da 45€ ||colori standard e ricercati, many colours<br />
|-<br />
| [http://lybina.com/ Lybina Pty Ltd] || From Australia || [[ABS]], [[PLA]], [[HDPE]], [[PP]], [[PVC]] || $32 /kg ($16 /lb) || 50 meter Coil (~1lb) and Bagged + GST + Transport. Contact Through Website [http://lybina.com/contact-us.html Lybina Contact Us Page] <br> Credit Card Facilities Available<br />
|-<br />
| [http://store.makerbot.com/plastic.html Makerbot] || From USA || [[ABS]], [[PLA]], [[PVA]] || $43 - 55/kg ($21 - $28/lb) ABS <br> $43 /kg ($21 /lb) PLA <br> $32 /lb ($64/kg) PVA|| None<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.makergear.com/products/filament MakerGear] || From USA || [[ABS]], [[PLA]]|| $30 - 50/kg ($15 - 25/lb)|| None<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.mendel-parts.com/index.php/catalog/pla-filament/3mm-filament.html Mendel-Parts.com] || From Netherlands || [[PLA]]<br> & soon [[ABS]] || €25 - 27/kg PLA || 6 colors <br> Worldwide shipping with UPS - 3days max<br />
|-<br />
| [http://mixshop.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=23 Mixshop] || From Canada || [[PLA]] || $36 - 38/kg || Black, Blue, Red<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.newimageplastic.com New Image Plastics] <br> [http://www.plasticweldingrod.com/ Plastic welding rod] <br> [http://www.3dprinterfilament.com/ 3D Printer Filament] || From USA || [[ABS]], [[PVC]], [[HDPE]], [[PLA]] || $16 /kg ($8 /lb) ABS || Min 10lb (~5kg) order. Delivery on small orders tends to take several weeks <br> Call Donna at +1 (330) 854-3010 and tell them Forrest or RepRap sent you <br> Apparently, they do not sell PLA (8/29/11: Donna said they don't stock it) but can extrude PLA supplied by a customer. .<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.paoparts.com Paoparts] || From France|| [[PLA]] || €29 /kg || In 2,4kg roll.<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.plastireal.com.br Plastireal] || From Brazil || [[PVC]] [[HDPE]] [[PP]] || R$20 /kg || São Paulo store<br />
|-<br />
| [http://qdtsd.en.alibaba.com/productgrouplist-210256164/Plastic_Welding_rods.html#products Qingdao TSD Plastic Co., Ltd.] || From China || [[ABS]] [[HDPE]] [[PE]] [[PP]] [[PVC]] || ? || [[FilamentReviews Qingdao TSD Plastic Co|Reviews]]<br />
|-<br />
| [http://reprapcentral.com RepRapCentral.com] || From UK || [[ABS]], [[PLA]] || £30 - 36/kg 5lb spool <br> £30 - 66/kg 1lb coil || Black/White ABS, Premium/Translucent PLA, Translucent Green, Translucent Blue, Orange, Purple, Yellow, Red, Bright Blue and a striking lime green. Worldwide shipping.<br />
|-<br />
| [http://reprapsource.com/en/shop/list/198 RepRapSource] || From Germany || [[ABS]]<br>[[PLA]] || €24 - 30/kg ABS <br> €29 - 32 /kg PLA || For a 5lb roll. Different colours available<br />
|-<br />
|[http://reprapworld.com/?searchresults&cPath=1590 RepRapWorld] || From Netherlands || [[ABS]] [[PLA]] || €20 /kg (9.98 for a 500g coil)|| PLA (Blue, Red, Black, Yellow) ABS (Black, White)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://supply3dpla.com Supply3DPLA.com] || From Sweden || [[PLA]] || €39 for 2.5Kg spool <br> || Black, White, Red, Green, Blue and Silver...<br />
|-<br />
| [http://ultimachine.com/catalog/print-materials UltiMachine] || From USA || [[ABS]] [[PLA]] || $24 - $30/kg ($12 - 15/lb) || Sold in 1 and 5lb (0.5kg and 2.3kg)<br />
|-<br />
| [https://shop.ultimaker.com/en/consumables.html Ultimaker Shop] || From Netherlands (EU) || [[PLA]], [[ABS]], flexPLA || €28 - 41/kg || In 750g and 2.3 kg reels. We offer many different colors of high quality filament. All offered material are tested extensively.<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.weistek.net/?q=node/8 WeisTek.net] || From China || [[PLA]],[[ABS]] || $20 /kg || Expensive shipping ($42) In 1KG and 2.5kg roll. Many colors, glow-in-the-dark, soft PLA and mixed sets are available<br />
|-<br />
| [https://kd85.com/makerbot.html Wim-kd85.com] || From Belgium (EU) || [[ABS]], [[PLA]] || €20 - 32/kg ABS <br> €26 /kg PLA || 5lb rolls<br />
|-<br />
|}<br />
<br />
==1.75mm diameter filament==<br />
{| class="wikitable sortable"<br />
|+ ''1.75mm dia filament'' ([[FilamentNewSupplierCompanyEntryTemplate|Template]])<br />
|- style="background-color:#f0f0f0;"<br />
! Vendor (with link) !! Shipping location !! Material(s) !! Approximate costs $ € £ /kg !! [[FilamentNewCompanyReviewTemplate|Review]] & Additional notes<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.3dprinterstuff.com/shop/page/6?shop_param= 3D Printer Stuff] || From USA || [[ABS]] || $33 - 38/kg ($17 - 19/lb || Available in 1, 2, and 5 lb spools. Red, orange, yellow, green, olive, sky blue, navy blue, purple, rust, white, natural, black.<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.Buy3DInk.com Buy 3D Ink] || From USA || [[ABS]], [[PLA]] || $35 /kg ($17/lb)|| Red, green, blue, black, white, yellow, natural<br />
|-<br />
| [http://botmill.com/index.php/materials.html BotMill] || From USA || [[ABS]], [[PLA]] || $20 - $24/kg ($10 - 12/lb) || Min 1lb(0.5kg) order. Worldwide shipping - Free shipping in USA <br> Large variety of low-cost colored ABS and PLA<br>Terra Cotta, Orange, Light Blue, Olive Drab, Dark Grey<br />
|-<br />
| [http://croxwordz.blogspot.com Croxword] || From Taiwan || [[ABS]] || $25 /kg ($12 /lb) : $50/ per box of 2kg (+$12 Shipping)|| White/Black/Blue/Yellow<br />
|-<br />
| [http://diamondage.co.nz/pla.html Diamond Age Solutions Ltd.] || From NZ || [[PLA]], [[ABS]] || NZ$135 /kg PLA <br> NZ$200 /kg ABS <br> Shipping : ~NZ10$ per roll to Europe/US. || ~0.22kg for a 100 meter roll. Spools avail. Various colours, metallic fx & luminous. Also sells parts.<br /> Contact vik [at] diamondage.co.nz<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.faberdashery.co.uk/products-page/ Faberdashery Ltd.] || From UK || [[PLA]] || Sold by the meter - From £0.22/m <br> £54 - 64/kg || An emporium of high-quality colored PLA, sold by the meter or in 100m coils<br /> Pack with 10m of 10 colors also available (£26)<br />
|-<br />
| [https://shop.grrf.de/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=82_83 German RepRap Foundation] || From Germany || [[ABS]] [[PLA]] || €34 /kg ABS <br> €35 - 40/kg PLA || On spools for a better unrolling. Worldwide shipping. Soft PLA<br />
|-<br />
| [http://store.makerbot.com/plastic.html Makerbot] || From USA || [[ABS]], [[PLA]] || $43 - 55/kg ($21 - $27/lb) ABS <br> $43 /kg ($21 /lb) PLA || None<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.makergear.com/products/filament MakerGear] || From USA || [[ABS]] || $35 /kg ($17 /lb) || Sold in 1lb (0.5kg) rolls. Red, Blue, Green, Black, White, Orange, Pink & Purple<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.mendel-parts.com/index.php/catalog/pla-filament/1-75mm-filament.html Mendel-Parts.com] || From EU || [[PLA]] <br>& soon [[ABS]] || €27 - 29/kg || 6 colors<br/>Worldwide shipping with UPS - 3days max<br />
|-<br />
| [http://mixshop.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=23 Mixshop] || From Canada || [[PLA]] || $30 - 35/kg || Black, Blue, White<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.paoparts.com Paoparts] || From France|| [[PLA]] || €26 - 29/kg || In 2,4kg roll.<br />
|-<br />
| [http://ultimachine.com/catalog/print-materials UltiMachine] || From USA || [[ABS]] [[PLA]] || $28 - 38/kg ($14 - 19/lb) || Sold in 1 and 5lb (0.5kg and 2.3kg)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://reprapsource.com/en/shop/list/220 Reprapsource] || From Germany || [[PLA]] || €40 /kg || Natural<br />
|-<br />
| [http://supply3dpla.com Supply3DPLA.com] || From SWEDEN || [[PLA]] || €19.5 for 1.2 kg || White, Black, Red, Yellow, Green, Blue, Purple, Orange<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.pp3dp.com/index.php?page=shop.browse&category_id=3&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=37&vmcchk=1&Itemid=37 PP3DP] || From China || [[ABS]] || $44 /kg ($23 /lb) + $12 Shipping)|| Sold as 2x700g=3.1lb rolls. White<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.weistek.net/?q=node/12 WeisTek.net] || From China || [[PLA]],[[ABS]] || $20 /kg || In 1kg and 2.3kg roll. many colors, glow-in-the-dark, soft PLA and mixed sets are available<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.brightcn.net/e/products/prod1/p110.html]|| From China || [[PLA]] [[ABS]] || $10.9 - 19/kg + $5-8/kg freight in 2.5kg PLA reel|| black ,white, transparent,blue,red, yellow,green.pretty color,absolutely round shape,accurate diameter,no bubble,stable viscosity and melting point.<br />
|-<br />
|}<br />
<br />
[[Category:Suppliers]]<br />
[[category:thermoplastic]]<br />
[[category:material]]</div>Dfk20012002https://reprap.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Printing_Material_Suppliers&diff=47789Printing Material Suppliers2011-11-28T21:06:32Z<p>Dfk20012002: price update</p>
<hr />
<div>=Filament=<br />
<br />
Below is a table listing suppliers of filament. Costs are only approximate and are likely to change. Always check before ordering, and if you can, update this page. If there are any missing fields in the table, please feel free to update. <br />
* Help migrate the remaining reviews to each company review page --> [[Filament supplier reviews]] Thanks.<br />
<br />
==3mm diameter filament==<br />
''Please keep the tables in alphabetical order.''<br />
<br />
{| class="wikitable sortable"<br />
|+ ''3mm dia filament'' ([[FilamentNewSupplierCompanyEntryTemplate|Template]])<br />
|- style="background-color:#f0f0f0;"<br />
! Vendor (with link) !! Shipping location !! Material(s) !! Approximate costs $ € £ /kg !! [[FilamentNewCompanyReviewTemplate|Review]] & Additional notes<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.2printbeta.de 2PrintBeta] || From Germany || [[PLA]],[[ABS]] || €32 - 46/kg || In 100 m and 300m roll. Many colors, glow-in-the-dark, soft PLA and mixed sets are available<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.3dprinterstuff.com/shop/page/4?shop_param= 3D Printer Stuff] || From USA || [[ABS]] || $29 /kg ($15 /lb) || Available in 1lb (0.5kg), 2lb (1kg), and 5lb (2.5kg) spools. Colors : Red, orange, yellow, green, olive, sky blue, navy blue, purple, rust, white, natural, black.<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.bitsfrombytes.com/catalog/materials Bits From Bytes] || From UK || [[ABS]], [[HDPE]], [[LDPE]], [[PLA]], [[PP]], [[uPVC]] || £40 - 47/kg || In 1kg or 2kg rolls depending on material<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.buy3dink.com/ Buy 3D Ink] || From USA || [[ABS]] <br> [[PLA]]|| $12 - 35/kg ($6 - 18/lb) ABS <br> $20 - 35/kg ($10 - 18/lb) PLA|| Black, orange, green, clear<br />
|-<br />
| [http://botmill.com/index.php/materials.html BotMill] || From USA || [[ABS]], [[PLA]] || $20 - 24/kg ($10-12/lb) || Min 1lb (0.5kg) order. Worldwide shipping - Free shipping in USA <br> Large variety of low-cost colored ABS and PLA<br>Terra Cotta, Orange, Light Blue, Olive Drab, Dark Grey<br />
|-<br />
| [http://croxwordz.blogspot.com Croxword] || From Taiwan || [[ABS]] || $17 /kg : $50 per box with 3kg <br> (+$14 Shipping)|| White/Black/Blue/Yellow<br />
|-<br />
| [http://diamondage.co.nz/pla.html Diamond Age Solutions Ltd.] || From NZ || [[PLA]], [[ABS]] || NZ$33 /kg PLA <br> NZ$50 /kg ABS <br> Shipping : $10 to NZ (shipping + GST), ~NZ20$ per roll to Europe/US, less to Australia. || ~0.9kg for a 100 meter roll. Spools avail. Various colours, metallic fx & luminous + parts. 11th roll is free<br/>Contact vik [at] diamondage.co.nz<br />
|-<br />
| [http://esun.en.alibaba.com/product/472333729-212653045/productdetail.html Esun, Alibaba]|| From China || [[PLA]] [[ABS]] || $14 - 19/kg + $5-8/kg freight in 2.5kg PLA reel|| black ,white, transparent,blue,red, yellow,green.pretty color,absolutely round shape,accurate diameter,no bubble,stable viscosity and melting point.<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.faberdashery.co.uk/products-page/ Faberdashery Ltd.] || From UK || [[PLA]] || Sold by the meter - From £0.26/m <br> £24 - 32/kg || An emporium of colored PLA, sold by the meter or in 100m coils <br> Pack with 10m of 10 colors also available (£35)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://fabricationsofthemind.com/shop/abs/ Fabrications Of TheMind] || From UK || [[ABS]] || £20 /kg for 1kg <br> £16 /kg for 2kg (£31.95) <br> £13 /kg for 5kg (£64.95) || None<br />
|-<br />
| [https://shop.grrf.de/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=82_83 German RepRap Foundation] || From Germany || [[ABS]] [[PLA]] || €25-€34/kg : €55-€75 for 2.2kg PLA <br> €22.73/kg : €50 for 2.2kg ABS || On spools for a better unrolling. Worldwide shipping. Also have soft PLA<br />
|-<br />
| [http://kdipolymerspecialists.co.uk KDI Polymer Specialist Ltd] || From UK || [[ABS]], [[PLA]] || £34 - 39/kg || 1kg reel. Translucent green, red and blue, all standard colours available bespoke colours on request <br> All with Free UK Shipping, trade enquiries welcome.<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.kentstrapper.blogspot.com Kent's Strapper] || From Italy (EU) || [[PLA]],[[ABS]] || €45 , a partire da 45€ ||colori standard e ricercati, many colours<br />
|-<br />
| [http://lybina.com/ Lybina Pty Ltd] || From Australia || [[ABS]], [[PLA]], [[HDPE]], [[PP]], [[PVC]] || $32 /kg ($16 /lb) || 50 meter Coil (~1lb) and Bagged + GST + Transport. Contact Through Website [http://lybina.com/contact-us.html Lybina Contact Us Page] <br> Credit Card Facilities Available<br />
|-<br />
| [http://store.makerbot.com/plastic.html Makerbot] || From USA || [[ABS]], [[PLA]], [[PVA]] || $43 - 55/kg ($21 - $28/lb) ABS <br> $43 /kg ($21 /lb) PLA <br> $32 /lb ($64/kg) PVA|| None<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.makergear.com/products/filament MakerGear] || From USA || [[ABS]], [[PLA]]|| $30 - 50/kg ($15 - 25/lb)|| None<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.mendel-parts.com/index.php/catalog/pla-filament/3mm-filament.html Mendel-Parts.com] || From Netherlands || [[PLA]]<br> & soon [[ABS]] || €25 - 27/kg PLA || 6 colors <br> Worldwide shipping with UPS - 3days max<br />
|-<br />
| [http://mixshop.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=23 Mixshop] || From Canada || [[PLA]] || $36 - 38/kg || Black, Blue, Red<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.newimageplastic.com New Image Plastics] <br> [http://www.plasticweldingrod.com/ Plastic welding rod] <br> [http://www.3dprinterfilament.com/ 3D Printer Filament] || From USA || [[ABS]], [[PVC]], [[HDPE]], [[PLA]] || $16 /kg ($8 /lb) ABS || Min 10lb (~5kg) order. Delivery on small orders tends to take several weeks <br> Call Donna at +1 (330) 854-3010 and tell them Forrest or RepRap sent you <br> Apparently, they do not sell PLA (8/29/11: Donna said they don't stock it) but can extrude PLA supplied by a customer. .<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.paoparts.com Paoparts] || From France|| [[PLA]] || €29 /kg || In 2,4kg roll.<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.plastireal.com.br Plastireal] || From Brazil || [[PVC]] [[HDPE]] [[PP]] || R$20 /kg || São Paulo store<br />
|-<br />
| [http://qdtsd.en.alibaba.com/productgrouplist-210256164/Plastic_Welding_rods.html#products Qingdao TSD Plastic Co., Ltd.] || From China || [[ABS]] [[HDPE]] [[PE]] [[PP]] [[PVC]] || ? || [[FilamentReviews Qingdao TSD Plastic Co|Reviews]]<br />
|-<br />
| [http://reprapcentral.com RepRapCentral.com] || From UK || [[ABS]], [[PLA]] || £30 - 36/kg 5lb spool <br> £30 - 66/kg 1lb coil || Black/White ABS, Premium/Translucent PLA, Translucent Green, Translucent Blue, Orange, Purple, Yellow, Red, Bright Blue and a striking lime green. Worldwide shipping.<br />
|-<br />
| [http://reprapsource.com/en/shop/list/198 RepRapSource] || From Germany || [[ABS]]<br>[[PLA]] || €24 - 30/kg ABS <br> €29 - 32 /kg PLA || For a 5lb roll. Different colours available<br />
|-<br />
|[http://reprapworld.com/?searchresults&cPath=1590 RepRapWorld] || From Netherlands || [[ABS]] [[PLA]] || €20 /kg (9.98 for a 500g coil)|| PLA (Blue, Red, Black, Yellow) ABS (Black, White)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://supply3dpla.com Supply3DPLA.com] || From Sweden || [[PLA]] || €39 for 2.5Kg spool <br> || Black, White, Red, Green, Blue and Silver...<br />
|-<br />
| [http://ultimachine.com/catalog/print-materials UltiMachine] || From USA || [[ABS]] [[PLA]] || $24 - $30/kg ($12 - 15/lb) || Sold in 1 and 5lb (0.5kg and 2.3kg)<br />
|-<br />
| [https://shop.ultimaker.com/en/consumables.html Ultimaker Shop] || From Netherlands (EU) || [[PLA]], [[ABS]], flexPLA || €28 - 41/kg || In 750g and 2.3 kg reels. We offer many different colors of high quality filament. All offered material are tested extensively.<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.weistek.net/?q=node/8 WeisTek.net] || From China || [[PLA]],[[ABS]] || $20 /kg || In 1KG and 2.5kg roll. Many colors, glow-in-the-dark, soft PLA and mixed sets are available<br />
|-<br />
| [https://kd85.com/makerbot.html Wim-kd85.com] || From Belgium (EU) || [[ABS]], [[PLA]] || €20 - 32/kg ABS <br> €26 /kg PLA || 5lb rolls<br />
|-<br />
|}<br />
<br />
==1.75mm diameter filament==<br />
{| class="wikitable sortable"<br />
|+ ''1.75mm dia filament'' ([[FilamentNewSupplierCompanyEntryTemplate|Template]])<br />
|- style="background-color:#f0f0f0;"<br />
! Vendor (with link) !! Shipping location !! Material(s) !! Approximate costs $ € £ /kg !! [[FilamentNewCompanyReviewTemplate|Review]] & Additional notes<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.3dprinterstuff.com/shop/page/6?shop_param= 3D Printer Stuff] || From USA || [[ABS]] || $33 - 38/kg ($17 - 19/lb || Available in 1, 2, and 5 lb spools. Red, orange, yellow, green, olive, sky blue, navy blue, purple, rust, white, natural, black.<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.Buy3DInk.com Buy 3D Ink] || From USA || [[ABS]], [[PLA]] || $35 /kg ($17/lb)|| Red, green, blue, black, white, yellow, natural<br />
|-<br />
| [http://botmill.com/index.php/materials.html BotMill] || From USA || [[ABS]], [[PLA]] || $20 - $24/kg ($10 - 12/lb) || Min 1lb(0.5kg) order. Worldwide shipping - Free shipping in USA <br> Large variety of low-cost colored ABS and PLA<br>Terra Cotta, Orange, Light Blue, Olive Drab, Dark Grey<br />
|-<br />
| [http://croxwordz.blogspot.com Croxword] || From Taiwan || [[ABS]] || $25 /kg ($12 /lb) : $50/ per box of 2kg (+$12 Shipping)|| White/Black/Blue/Yellow<br />
|-<br />
| [http://diamondage.co.nz/pla.html Diamond Age Solutions Ltd.] || From NZ || [[PLA]], [[ABS]] || NZ$135 /kg PLA <br> NZ$200 /kg ABS <br> Shipping : ~NZ10$ per roll to Europe/US. || ~0.22kg for a 100 meter roll. Spools avail. Various colours, metallic fx & luminous. Also sells parts.<br /> Contact vik [at] diamondage.co.nz<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.faberdashery.co.uk/products-page/ Faberdashery Ltd.] || From UK || [[PLA]] || Sold by the meter - From £0.22/m <br> £54 - 64/kg || An emporium of high-quality colored PLA, sold by the meter or in 100m coils<br /> Pack with 10m of 10 colors also available (£26)<br />
|-<br />
| [https://shop.grrf.de/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=82_83 German RepRap Foundation] || From Germany || [[ABS]] [[PLA]] || €34 /kg ABS <br> €35 - 40/kg PLA || On spools for a better unrolling. Worldwide shipping. Soft PLA<br />
|-<br />
| [http://store.makerbot.com/plastic.html Makerbot] || From USA || [[ABS]], [[PLA]] || $43 - 55/kg ($21 - $27/lb) ABS <br> $43 /kg ($21 /lb) PLA || None<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.makergear.com/products/filament MakerGear] || From USA || [[ABS]] || $35 /kg ($17 /lb) || Sold in 1lb (0.5kg) rolls. Red, Blue, Green, Black, White, Orange, Pink & Purple<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.mendel-parts.com/index.php/catalog/pla-filament/1-75mm-filament.html Mendel-Parts.com] || From EU || [[PLA]] <br>& soon [[ABS]] || €27 - 29/kg || 6 colors<br/>Worldwide shipping with UPS - 3days max<br />
|-<br />
| [http://mixshop.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=23 Mixshop] || From Canada || [[PLA]] || $30 - 35/kg || Black, Blue, White<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.paoparts.com Paoparts] || From France|| [[PLA]] || €26 - 29/kg || In 2,4kg roll.<br />
|-<br />
| [http://ultimachine.com/catalog/print-materials UltiMachine] || From USA || [[ABS]] [[PLA]] || $28 - 38/kg ($14 - 19/lb) || Sold in 1 and 5lb (0.5kg and 2.3kg)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://reprapsource.com/en/shop/list/220 Reprapsource] || From Germany || [[PLA]] || €40 /kg || Natural<br />
|-<br />
| [http://supply3dpla.com Supply3DPLA.com] || From SWEDEN || [[PLA]] || €19.5 for 1.2 kg || White, Black, Red, Yellow, Green, Blue, Purple, Orange<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.pp3dp.com/index.php?page=shop.browse&category_id=3&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=37&vmcchk=1&Itemid=37 PP3DP] || From China || [[ABS]] || $44 /kg ($23 /lb) + $12 Shipping)|| Sold as 2x700g=3.1lb rolls. White<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.weistek.net/?q=node/12 WeisTek.net] || From China || [[PLA]],[[ABS]] || $20 /kg || In 1kg and 2.3kg roll. many colors, glow-in-the-dark, soft PLA and mixed sets are available<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.brightcn.net/e/products/prod1/p110.html]|| From China || [[PLA]] [[ABS]] || $10.9 - 19/kg + $5-8/kg freight in 2.5kg PLA reel|| black ,white, transparent,blue,red, yellow,green.pretty color,absolutely round shape,accurate diameter,no bubble,stable viscosity and melting point.<br />
|-<br />
|}<br />
<br />
[[Category:Suppliers]]<br />
[[category:thermoplastic]]<br />
[[category:material]]</div>Dfk20012002https://reprap.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Shaft_Driven_Extruder&diff=45504Shaft Driven Extruder2011-11-22T23:27:40Z<p>Dfk20012002: </p>
<hr />
<div>{{Development<br />
|status = Concept<br />
|name = Shaft driven Extruder<br />
|description = X-axis Shaft driven Extruder<br />
|license = open everything<br />
|author = Dfk20012002<br />
|reprap = None<br />
|categories = <br />
|cadModel = <br />
|url = <br />
}}<br />
'''Please note this is still being developed and I will add extra information soon'''<br />
[[File:RoughRepRapSplineExtruder.png|400px|thumb|left|Rough Example of a Spline Extruder]]<br />
== Pros and Cons ==<br />
<br />
{| cellpadding="7.5" align="center" <br />
!Design <br />
!Advantage <br />
!Disadvantages <br />
|-<br />
|NO Stepper Motor on Extruder<br />
| <br />
*Lower Weight<br />
*Lower Inertia experienced on extruder <br />
*Faster move speeds<br />
*Better Accuracy<br />
|Where does the stepper go? (hahaha)<br />
|- <br />
|Stepper Motor Placed on Right of X-axis<br />
|<br />
*Balances Frame weight out <br />
*Possible better distribution of wear on threads of z axis (hard to verify this claim) <br />
| <br />
|-<br />
|Shaft Drive <br />
|<br />
*Enables multiple heads to be driven by the same stepper motor<br />
*Maintains high degree of control at extruder<br />
*Interchangeable Hotends become more feasible as the motor assembly is out of the way<br />
| Might get quickly bogged down if too many heads<br />
|}<br />
<br />
The Premise about this is to reduce the amount of weight on the extruder, a previous approach was to use Bowden cable extruders however some of the claims are that it is unresponsive and elastic in comparison to a traditional extruder. As such by having a shaft driven extruder you wold not have the same problems<br />
<br />
[[File:DriveShaftProfiles.png|400px|thumb|left|Examples of different drive shaft profiles that are advailable]]<br />
<br />
While there are a multitude of drive shafts out there these are just some of them.<br />
<br />
Ball splines: though the most accurate and best for linear motion as well as rotation are ludicrous in price costing $100+ per 12inchs and the take off gear is about $80<br />
One proposed method of creating them is via a router or dremel tool in a channel cutting groves into a shaft for a cheap replacement, This has not yet been attempted. <br />
<br />
{|class="wikitable" style="margin: 1em auto 1em auto;"<br />
|- style="background-color:#999999;" <br />
! FILE ID#<br />
! TYPE<br />
! DESCRIPTION<br />
! AVAILABLE FORMATS<br />
! CREATED/RESERVED BY<br />
|-<br />
| ReprapSplineExtruder<br />
| OpenScad Code<br />
| These are CAD files for the total OpenScad model.<br />
| [[media:ReprapSplineExtruder.scad|.scad]], [[media:]]<br />
| [[User:Dfk20012002|Dfk20012002]] 13:48, 17 November 2011 (UTC)<br />
|-<br />
| Your-File-Name<br />
| CAD FILES FOR PARTS<br />
| These are CAD files for the total model.<br />
| [[media:cubic_meter_bot_many_parts.zip|.xml.zip]], [[media:cubic_meter_bot_many_parts.stl.zip|.stl.zip]]<br />
| [[User:|User:]] 12:00, Today's Date 20xx (UTC)<br />
|-<br />
| Your-File-Name<br />
| EVEN MORE FILES<br />
| These are are even more files.<br />
| [[media:cubic_meter_bot_even_more_files.zip|.xml.zip]], [[media:cubic_meter_bot_even_more_files.stl.zip|.stl.zip]]<br />
| [[User:|User:]] 12:00, Today's Date 20xx (UTC)|-<br />
|}<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
== Considerations / Ideas ==<br />
As I talk with people on the IRC there have been several ideas come up and any name mentions is just a general direction where the idea came from. (might not be a perfect quote)<br />
<br />
From sparr, Replacing the lower support rod with the drive shaft so as to reduce parts needed, the potential problems with this is if the rotation binding on the carriage if there is any slack, but this could be solved with rollers in the filament drive gear or by using ball splines again but they would need to be homemade.<br />
<br />
From peeps, make sure to keep the filament drive gear as small as possible in order to maintain mechanical advantage.<br />
<br />
Possibly use the drive shaft as the filament drive gear itself, if the right shape and size. Possible problem of cutting into the filament and or gumming up the drive shaft.<br />
<br />
Interchangeable hotends almost shaped like printer cartridges, having the power connections be press fit or nearby, this would be a good spot to connect the cartridge in at the top and pull it down to lock like a hinge.</div>Dfk20012002https://reprap.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Shaft_Driven_Extruder&diff=45291Shaft Driven Extruder2011-11-17T18:00:59Z<p>Dfk20012002: added ideas section</p>
<hr />
<div>{{Development<br />
|status = Concept<br />
|name = Shaft driven Extruder<br />
|description = X-axis Shaft driven Extruder<br />
|license = open everything<br />
|author = Dfk20012002<br />
|reprap = <br />
|categories = <br />
|cadModel = <br />
|url = <br />
}}<br />
'''Please note this is still being developed and I will add extra information soon'''<br />
[[File:RoughRepRapSplineExtruder.png|400px|thumb|left|Rough Example of a Spline Extruder]]<br />
== Pros and Cons ==<br />
<br />
{| cellpadding="7.5" align="center" <br />
!Design <br />
!Advantage <br />
!Disadvantages <br />
|-<br />
|NO Stepper Motor on Extruder<br />
| <br />
*Lower Weight<br />
*Lower Inertia experienced on extruder <br />
*Faster move speeds<br />
*Better Accuracy<br />
|Where does the stepper go? (hahaha)<br />
|- <br />
|Stepper Motor Placed on Right of X-axis<br />
|<br />
*Balances Frame weight out <br />
*Possible better distribution of wear on threads of z axis (hard to verify this claim) <br />
| <br />
|-<br />
|Shaft Drive <br />
|<br />
*Enables multiple heads to be driven by the same stepper motor<br />
*Maintains high degree of control at extruder<br />
*Interchangeable Hotends become more feasible as the motor assembly is out of the way<br />
| Might get quickly bogged down if too many heads<br />
|}<br />
<br />
The Premise about this is to reduce the amount of weight on the extruder, a previous approach was to use Bowden cable extruders however some of the claims are that it is unresponsive and elastic in comparison to a traditional extruder. As such by having a shaft driven extruder you wold not have the same problems<br />
<br />
[[File:DriveShaftProfiles.png|400px|thumb|left|Examples of different drive shaft profiles that are advailable]]<br />
<br />
While there are a multitude of drive shafts out there these are just some of them.<br />
<br />
Ball splines: though the most accurate and best for linear motion as well as rotation are ludicrous in price costing $100+ per 12inchs and the take off gear is about $80<br />
One proposed method of creating them is via a router or dremel tool in a channel cutting groves into a shaft for a cheap replacement, This has not yet been attempted. <br />
<br />
{|class="wikitable" style="margin: 1em auto 1em auto;"<br />
|- style="background-color:#999999;" <br />
! FILE ID#<br />
! TYPE<br />
! DESCRIPTION<br />
! AVAILABLE FORMATS<br />
! CREATED/RESERVED BY<br />
|-<br />
| ReprapSplineExtruder<br />
| OpenScad Code<br />
| These are CAD files for the total OpenScad model.<br />
| [[media:ReprapSplineExtruder.scad|.scad]], [[media:]]<br />
| [[User:Dfk20012002|Dfk20012002]] 13:48, 17 November 2011 (UTC)<br />
|-<br />
| Your-File-Name<br />
| CAD FILES FOR PARTS<br />
| These are CAD files for the total model.<br />
| [[media:cubic_meter_bot_many_parts.zip|.xml.zip]], [[media:cubic_meter_bot_many_parts.stl.zip|.stl.zip]]<br />
| [[User:|User:]] 12:00, Today's Date 20xx (UTC)<br />
|-<br />
| Your-File-Name<br />
| EVEN MORE FILES<br />
| These are are even more files.<br />
| [[media:cubic_meter_bot_even_more_files.zip|.xml.zip]], [[media:cubic_meter_bot_even_more_files.stl.zip|.stl.zip]]<br />
| [[User:|User:]] 12:00, Today's Date 20xx (UTC)|-<br />
|}<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
== Considerations / Ideas ==<br />
As I talk with people on the IRC there have been several ideas come up and any name mentions is just a general direction where the idea came from. (might not be a perfect quote)<br />
<br />
From sparr, Replacing the lower support rod with the drive shaft so as to reduce parts needed, the potential problems with this is if the rotation binding on the carriage if there is any slack, but this could be solved with rollers in the filament drive gear or by using ball splines again but they would need to be homemade.<br />
<br />
From peeps, make sure to keep the filament drive gear as small as possible in order to maintain mechanical advantage.<br />
<br />
Possibly use the drive shaft as the filament drive gear itself, if the right shape and size. Possible problem of cutting into the filament and or gumming up the drive shaft.<br />
<br />
Interchangeable hotends almost shaped like printer cartridges, having the power connections be press fit or nearby, this would be a good spot to connect the cartridge in at the top and pull it down to lock like a hinge.</div>Dfk20012002https://reprap.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Shaft_Driven_Extruder&diff=45290Shaft Driven Extruder2011-11-17T17:38:28Z<p>Dfk20012002: Interchangeable Hotends become more feasible as the motor assembly is out of the way</p>
<hr />
<div>{{Development<br />
|status = Concept<br />
|name = Shaft driven Extruder<br />
|description = X-axis Shaft driven Extruder<br />
|license = open everything<br />
|author = Dfk20012002<br />
|reprap = <br />
|categories = <br />
|cadModel = <br />
|url = <br />
}}<br />
'''Please note this is still being developed and I will add extra information soon'''<br />
[[File:RoughRepRapSplineExtruder.png|400px|thumb|left|Rough Example of a Spline Extruder]]<br />
== Pros and Cons ==<br />
<br />
{| cellpadding="7.5" align="center" <br />
!Design <br />
!Advantage <br />
!Disadvantages <br />
|-<br />
|NO Stepper Motor on Extruder<br />
| <br />
*Lower Weight<br />
*Lower Inertia experienced on extruder <br />
*Faster move speeds<br />
*Better Accuracy<br />
|Where does the stepper go? (hahaha)<br />
|- <br />
|Stepper Motor Placed on Right of X-axis<br />
|<br />
*Balances Frame weight out <br />
*Possible better distribution of wear on threads of z axis (hard to verify this claim) <br />
| <br />
|-<br />
|Shaft Drive <br />
|<br />
*Enables multiple heads to be driven by the same stepper motor<br />
*Maintains high degree of control at extruder<br />
*Interchangeable Hotends become more feasible as the motor assembly is out of the way<br />
| Might get quickly bogged down if too many heads<br />
|}<br />
<br />
The Premise about this is to reduce the amount of weight on the extruder, a previous approach was to use Bowden cable extruders however some of the claims are that it is unresponsive and elastic in comparison to a traditional extruder. As such by having a shaft driven extruder you wold not have the same problems<br />
<br />
[[File:DriveShaftProfiles.png|400px|thumb|left|Examples of different drive shaft profiles that are advailable]]<br />
<br />
While there are a multitude of drive shafts out there these are just some of them.<br />
<br />
Ball splines: though the most accurate and best for linear motion as well as rotation are ludicrous in price costing $100+ per 12inchs and the take off gear is about $80<br />
One proposed method of creating them is via a router or dremel tool in a channel cutting groves into a shaft for a cheap replacement, This has not yet been attempted. <br />
<br />
{|class="wikitable" style="margin: 1em auto 1em auto;"<br />
|- style="background-color:#999999;" <br />
! FILE ID#<br />
! TYPE<br />
! DESCRIPTION<br />
! AVAILABLE FORMATS<br />
! CREATED/RESERVED BY<br />
|-<br />
| ReprapSplineExtruder<br />
| OpenScad Code<br />
| These are CAD files for the total OpenScad model.<br />
| [[media:ReprapSplineExtruder.scad|.scad]], [[media:]]<br />
| [[User:Dfk20012002|Dfk20012002]] 13:48, 17 November 2011 (UTC)<br />
|-<br />
| Your-File-Name<br />
| CAD FILES FOR PARTS<br />
| These are CAD files for the total model.<br />
| [[media:cubic_meter_bot_many_parts.zip|.xml.zip]], [[media:cubic_meter_bot_many_parts.stl.zip|.stl.zip]]<br />
| [[User:|User:]] 12:00, Today's Date 20xx (UTC)<br />
|-<br />
| Your-File-Name<br />
| EVEN MORE FILES<br />
| These are are even more files.<br />
| [[media:cubic_meter_bot_even_more_files.zip|.xml.zip]], [[media:cubic_meter_bot_even_more_files.stl.zip|.stl.zip]]<br />
| [[User:|User:]] 12:00, Today's Date 20xx (UTC)|-<br />
|}</div>Dfk20012002https://reprap.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Shaft_Driven_Extruder&diff=45288Shaft Driven Extruder2011-11-17T14:07:11Z<p>Dfk20012002: added line about possible way to creat ball splines</p>
<hr />
<div>{{Development<br />
|status = Concept<br />
|name = Shaft driven Extruder<br />
|description = X-axis Shaft driven Extruder<br />
|license = open everything<br />
|author = Dfk20012002<br />
|reprap = <br />
|categories = <br />
|cadModel = <br />
|url = <br />
}}<br />
'''Please note this is still being developed and I will add extra information soon'''<br />
[[File:RoughRepRapSplineExtruder.png|400px|thumb|left|Rough Example of a Spline Extruder]]<br />
== Pros and Cons ==<br />
<br />
{| cellpadding="7.5" align="center" <br />
!Design <br />
!Advantage <br />
!Disadvantages <br />
|-<br />
|NO Stepper Motor on Extruder<br />
| <br />
*Lower Weight<br />
*Lower Inertia experienced on extruder <br />
*Faster move speeds<br />
*Better Accuracy<br />
|Where does the stepper go? (hahaha)<br />
|- <br />
|Stepper Motor Placed on Right of X-axis<br />
|<br />
*Balances Frame weight out <br />
*Possible better distribution of wear on threads of z axis (hard to verify this claim) <br />
| <br />
|-<br />
|Shaft Drive <br />
|<br />
*Enables multiple heads to be driven by the same stepper motor<br />
*Maintains high degree of control at extruder<br />
| Might get quickly bogged down if too many heads<br />
|}<br />
<br />
The Premise about this is to reduce the amount of weight on the extruder, a previous approach was to use Bowden cable extruders however some of the claims are that it is unresponsive and elastic in comparison to a traditional extruder. As such by having a shaft driven extruder you wold not have the same problems<br />
<br />
[[File:DriveShaftProfiles.png|400px|thumb|left|Examples of different drive shaft profiles that are advailable]]<br />
<br />
While there are a multitude of drive shafts out there these are just some of them.<br />
<br />
Ball splines: though the most accurate and best for linear motion as well as rotation are ludicrous in price costing $100+ per 12inchs and the take off gear is about $80<br />
One proposed method of creating them is via a router or dremel tool in a channel cutting groves into a shaft for a cheap replacement, This has not yet been attempted. <br />
<br />
{|class="wikitable" style="margin: 1em auto 1em auto;"<br />
|- style="background-color:#999999;" <br />
! FILE ID#<br />
! TYPE<br />
! DESCRIPTION<br />
! AVAILABLE FORMATS<br />
! CREATED/RESERVED BY<br />
|-<br />
| ReprapSplineExtruder<br />
| OpenScad Code<br />
| These are CAD files for the total OpenScad model.<br />
| [[media:ReprapSplineExtruder.scad|.scad]], [[media:]]<br />
| [[User:Dfk20012002|Dfk20012002]] 13:48, 17 November 2011 (UTC)<br />
|-<br />
| Your-File-Name<br />
| CAD FILES FOR PARTS<br />
| These are CAD files for the total model.<br />
| [[media:cubic_meter_bot_many_parts.zip|.xml.zip]], [[media:cubic_meter_bot_many_parts.stl.zip|.stl.zip]]<br />
| [[User:|User:]] 12:00, Today's Date 20xx (UTC)<br />
|-<br />
| Your-File-Name<br />
| EVEN MORE FILES<br />
| These are are even more files.<br />
| [[media:cubic_meter_bot_even_more_files.zip|.xml.zip]], [[media:cubic_meter_bot_even_more_files.stl.zip|.stl.zip]]<br />
| [[User:|User:]] 12:00, Today's Date 20xx (UTC)|-<br />
|}</div>Dfk20012002https://reprap.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Shaft_Driven_Extruder&diff=45287Shaft Driven Extruder2011-11-17T13:48:44Z<p>Dfk20012002: Added Files and the sort</p>
<hr />
<div>{{Development<br />
|status = Concept<br />
|name = Shaft driven Extruder<br />
|description = X-axis Shaft driven Extruder<br />
|license = open everything<br />
|author = Dfk20012002<br />
|reprap = <br />
|categories = <br />
|cadModel = <br />
|url = <br />
}}<br />
'''Please note this is still being developed and I will add extra information soon'''<br />
[[File:RoughRepRapSplineExtruder.png|400px|thumb|left|Rough Example of a Spline Extruder]]<br />
== Pros and Cons ==<br />
<br />
{| cellpadding="7.5" align="center" <br />
!Design <br />
!Advantage <br />
!Disadvantages <br />
|-<br />
|NO Stepper Motor on Extruder<br />
| <br />
*Lower Weight<br />
*Lower Inertia experienced on extruder <br />
*Faster move speeds<br />
*Better Accuracy<br />
|Where does the stepper go? (hahaha)<br />
|- <br />
|Stepper Motor Placed on Right of X-axis<br />
|<br />
*Balances Frame weight out <br />
*Possible better distribution of wear on threads of z axis (hard to verify this claim) <br />
| <br />
|-<br />
|Shaft Drive <br />
|<br />
*Enables multiple heads to be driven by the same stepper motor<br />
*Maintains high degree of control at extruder<br />
| Might get quickly bogged down if too many heads<br />
|}<br />
<br />
The Premise about this is to reduce the amount of weight on the extruder, a previous approach was to use Bowden cable extruders however some of the claims are that it is unresponsive and elastic in comparison to a traditional extruder. As such by having a shaft driven extruder you wold not have the same problems<br />
<br />
[[File:DriveShaftProfiles.png|400px|thumb|left|Examples of different drive shaft profiles that are advailable]]<br />
While there are a multitude of drive shafts out there these are just some of them <br />
Ball splines: though the most accurate and best for linear motion as well as rotation are ludicrous in price costing $100+ per 12inchs and the take off gear is about $80<br />
<br />
{|class="wikitable" style="margin: 1em auto 1em auto;"<br />
|- style="background-color:#999999;" <br />
! FILE ID#<br />
! TYPE<br />
! DESCRIPTION<br />
! AVAILABLE FORMATS<br />
! CREATED/RESERVED BY<br />
|-<br />
| ReprapSplineExtruder<br />
| OpenScad Code<br />
| These are CAD files for the total OpenScad model.<br />
| [[media:ReprapSplineExtruder.scad|.scad]], [[media:]]<br />
| [[User:Dfk20012002|Dfk20012002]] 13:48, 17 November 2011 (UTC)<br />
|-<br />
| Your-File-Name<br />
| CAD FILES FOR PARTS<br />
| These are CAD files for the total model.<br />
| [[media:cubic_meter_bot_many_parts.zip|.xml.zip]], [[media:cubic_meter_bot_many_parts.stl.zip|.stl.zip]]<br />
| [[User:|User:]] 12:00, Today's Date 20xx (UTC)<br />
|-<br />
| Your-File-Name<br />
| EVEN MORE FILES<br />
| These are are even more files.<br />
| [[media:cubic_meter_bot_even_more_files.zip|.xml.zip]], [[media:cubic_meter_bot_even_more_files.stl.zip|.stl.zip]]<br />
| [[User:|User:]] 12:00, Today's Date 20xx (UTC)|-<br />
|}</div>Dfk20012002https://reprap.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=File:ReprapSplineExtruder.scad&diff=45286File:ReprapSplineExtruder.scad2011-11-17T13:38:58Z<p>Dfk20012002: Rough RepRap Spline Extruder model this is a work in progress</p>
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<div>Rough RepRap Spline Extruder model this is a work in progress</div>Dfk20012002https://reprap.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Shaft_Driven_Extruder&diff=45285Shaft Driven Extruder2011-11-17T13:36:42Z<p>Dfk20012002: added drive shaft profiles picture, and started to upload basic files</p>
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<div>{{Development<br />
|status = Concept<br />
|name = Shaft driven Extruder<br />
|description = X-axis Shaft driven Extruder<br />
|license = open everything<br />
|author = Dfk20012002 aka Dafoxco<br />
|reprap = <br />
|categories = <br />
|cadModel = <br />
|url = <br />
}}<br />
'''Please note this is still being developed and I will add extra information soon'''<br />
[[File:RoughRepRapSplineExtruder.png|400px|thumb|left|Rough Example of a Spline Extruder]]<br />
== Pros and Cons ==<br />
<br />
{| cellpadding="7.5" align="center" <br />
!Design <br />
!Advantage <br />
!Disadvantages <br />
|-<br />
|NO Stepper Motor on Extruder<br />
| <br />
*Lower Weight<br />
*Lower Inertia experienced on extruder <br />
*Faster move speeds<br />
*Better Accuracy<br />
|Where does the stepper go? (hahaha)<br />
|- <br />
|Stepper Motor Placed on Right of X-axis<br />
|<br />
*Balances Frame weight out <br />
*Possible better distribution of wear on threads of z axis (hard to verify this claim) <br />
| <br />
|-<br />
|Shaft Drive <br />
|<br />
*Enables multiple heads to be driven by the same stepper motor<br />
*Maintains high degree of control at extruder<br />
| Might get quickly bogged down if too many heads<br />
|}<br />
<br />
The Premise about this is to reduce the amount of weight on the extruder, a previous approach was to use Bowden cable extruders however some of the claims are that it is unresponsive and elastic in comparison to a traditional extruder. As such by having a shaft driven extruder you wold not have the same problems<br />
<br />
[[File:DriveShaftProfiles.png|400px|thumb|left|Examples of different drive shaft profiles that are advailable]]<br />
While there are a multitude of drive shafts out there these are just some of them <br />
Ball splines: though the most accurate and best for linear motion as well as rotation are ludicrous in price costing $100+ per 12inchs and the take off gear is about $80<br />
<br />
{|class="wikitable" style="margin: 1em auto 1em auto;"<br />
|- style="background-color:#999999;" <br />
! FILE ID#<br />
! TYPE<br />
! DESCRIPTION<br />
! AVAILABLE FORMATS<br />
! CREATED/RESERVED BY<br />
|-<br />
| Your-File-Name<br />
| SOLID MODEL ASSEMBLY<br />
| These are CAD files for the Solid Model Assembly<br />
| [[media:cubic_meter_bot_solid_model.xml.zip|.xml.zip]], [[media:cubic_meter_bot_solid_model.stl.zip|.stl.zip]]<br />
| [[User:Bogdan.kecman|--Bogdan.kecman]] 12:00, Today's Date 20xx (UTC)<br />
|-<br />
| Your-File-Name<br />
| CAD FILES FOR PARTS<br />
| These are CAD files for each part.<br />
| [[media:cubic_meter_bot_many_parts.zip|.xml.zip]], [[media:cubic_meter_bot_many_parts.stl.zip|.stl.zip]]<br />
| [[User:Bogdan.kecman|--Bogdan.kecman]] 12:00, Today's Date 20xx (UTC)<br />
|-<br />
| Your-File-Name<br />
| EVEN MORE FILES<br />
| These are are even more files.<br />
| [[media:cubic_meter_bot_even_more_files.zip|.xml.zip]], [[media:cubic_meter_bot_even_more_files.stl.zip|.stl.zip]]<br />
| [[User:Bogdan.kecman|--Bogdan.kecman]] 12:00, Today's Date 20xx (UTC)|-<br />
|}</div>Dfk20012002https://reprap.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=File:DriveShaftProfiles.png&diff=45284File:DriveShaftProfiles.png2011-11-17T13:27:44Z<p>Dfk20012002: Advailable example Drive Shaft Profiles for the Shaft Driven Extruder</p>
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<div>Advailable example Drive Shaft Profiles for the Shaft Driven Extruder</div>Dfk20012002https://reprap.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Shaft_Driven_Extruder&diff=45283Shaft Driven Extruder2011-11-17T13:12:11Z<p>Dfk20012002: Admins might want to check this idea out cause it is cool despite not being done yet</p>
<hr />
<div>{{Development<br />
|status = Concept<br />
|name = Shaft driven Extruder<br />
|description = X-axis Shaft driven Extruder<br />
|license = open everything<br />
|author = Dfk20012002 aka Dafoxco<br />
|reprap = <br />
|categories = <br />
|cadModel = <br />
|url = <br />
}}<br />
'''Please note this is still being developed and I will add extra information soon'''<br />
[[File:RoughRepRapSplineExtruder.png|400px|thumb|left|Rough Example of a Spline Extruder]]<br />
== Pros and Cons ==<br />
<br />
{| cellpadding="7.5" align="center" <br />
!Design <br />
!Advantage <br />
!Disadvantages <br />
|-<br />
|NO Stepper Motor on Extruder<br />
| <br />
*Lower Weight<br />
*Lower Inertia experienced on extruder <br />
*Faster move speeds<br />
*Better Accuracy<br />
|Where does the stepper go? (hahaha)<br />
|- <br />
|Stepper Motor Placed on Right of X-axis<br />
|<br />
*Balances Frame weight out <br />
*Possible better distribution of wear on threads of z axis (hard to verify this claim) <br />
| <br />
|-<br />
|Shaft Drive <br />
|<br />
*Enables multiple heads to be driven by the same stepper motor<br />
*Maintains high degree of control at extruder<br />
| Might get quickly bogged down if too many heads<br />
|}<br />
<br />
The Premise about this is to reduce the amount of weight on the extruder, a previous approach was to use Bowden cable extruders however some of the claims are that it is unresponsive and elastic in comparison to a traditional extruder. As such by having a shaft driven extruder you wold not have the same problems</div>Dfk20012002https://reprap.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Shaft_Driven_Extruder&diff=45282Shaft Driven Extruder2011-11-17T13:10:30Z<p>Dfk20012002: added picture and development box</p>
<hr />
<div>{{Development<br />
|status = Concept<br />
|name = Shaft driven Extruder<br />
|description = X-axis Shaft driven Extruder<br />
|license = open everything<br />
|author = Dfk20012002 <br />
|reprap = <br />
|categories = <br />
|cadModel = <br />
|url = <br />
}}<br />
'''Please note this is still being developed and I will add extra information soon'''<br />
[[File:RoughRepRapSplineExtruder.png|400px|thumb|left|Rough Example of a Spline Extruder]]<br />
== Pros and Cons ==<br />
<br />
{| cellpadding="7.5" align="center" <br />
!Design <br />
!Advantage <br />
!Disadvantages <br />
|-<br />
|NO Stepper Motor on Extruder<br />
| <br />
*Lower Weight<br />
*Lower Inertia experienced on extruder <br />
*Faster move speeds<br />
*Better Accuracy<br />
|Where does the stepper go? (hahaha)<br />
|- <br />
|Stepper Motor Placed on Right of X-axis<br />
|<br />
*Balances Frame weight out <br />
*Possible better distribution of wear on threads of z axis (hard to verify this claim) <br />
| <br />
|-<br />
|Shaft Drive <br />
|<br />
*Enables multiple heads to be driven by the same stepper motor<br />
*Maintains high degree of control at extruder<br />
| Might get quickly bogged down if too many heads<br />
|}<br />
<br />
The Premise about this is to reduce the amount of weight on the extruder, a previous approach was to use Bowden cable extruders however some of the claims are that it is unresponsive and elastic in comparison to a traditional extruder. As such by having a shaft driven extruder you wold not have the same problems</div>Dfk20012002https://reprap.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=File:RoughRepRapSplineExtruder.png&diff=45281File:RoughRepRapSplineExtruder.png2011-11-17T13:08:07Z<p>Dfk20012002: this is a rough model from openscad of a spline drive extruder</p>
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<div>this is a rough model from openscad of a spline drive extruder</div>Dfk20012002https://reprap.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Shaft_Driven_Extruder&diff=45279Shaft Driven Extruder2011-11-17T11:48:47Z<p>Dfk20012002: Creation of the page regarding shaft driven extruders</p>
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<div>= Shaft Driven Extruder =<br />
<br />
<br />
== Pros and Cons ==<br />
<br />
{| cellpadding="7.5" align="center" <br />
!Design <br />
!Advantage <br />
!Disadvantages <br />
|-<br />
|NO Stepper Motor on Extruder<br />
| <br />
*Lower Weight<br />
*Lower Inertia experienced on extruder <br />
*Faster move speeds<br />
*Better Accuracy<br />
|Where does the stepper go? (hahaha)<br />
|- <br />
|Stepper Motor Placed on Right of X-axis<br />
|<br />
*Balances Frame weight out <br />
*Possible better distribution of wear on threads of z axis (hard to verify this claim) <br />
| <br />
|-<br />
|Shaft Drive <br />
|<br />
*Enables multiple heads to be driven by the same stepper motor<br />
*Maintains high degree of control at extruder<br />
| Might get quickly bogged down if too many heads<br />
|}<br />
<br />
The Premise about this is to reduce the amount of weight on the extruder, a previous approach was to use Bowden cable extruders however some of the claims are that it is unresponsive and elastic in comparison to a traditional extruder. As such by having a shaft driven extruder you wold not have the same problems</div>Dfk20012002https://reprap.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Talk:Vlad_Tepes&diff=44994Talk:Vlad Tepes2011-11-11T08:18:08Z<p>Dfk20012002: dual extruder comment</p>
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<div>The dual sided y axis is something That I am thinking about doing too, http://reprap.org/wiki/File:RoughOverUnderConfig.png is first rough idea I had for one but conversation in the irc leads me to believe the math/ programming for it might be fairly complicated if printing different parts. Would like to keep this thought going though.<br />
--[[User:Dfk20012002|Dfk20012002]] 08:18, 11 November 2011 (UTC)</div>Dfk20012002https://reprap.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=File:RoughOverUnderConfig.png&diff=44992File:RoughOverUnderConfig.png2011-11-11T06:54:02Z<p>Dfk20012002: Dafoxco / Dfkk20012002 Proposed Over under config for reprap Vertical axis</p>
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<div>Dafoxco / Dfkk20012002 Proposed Over under config for reprap Vertical axis</div>Dfk20012002https://reprap.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=User:Dfk20012002&diff=43213User:Dfk200120022011-10-14T09:52:37Z<p>Dfk20012002: added specsheet for motors</p>
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<div>Reprap kits from Southern Alberta.<br />
<br />
<br />
I will have kits, parts, and complete repraps for sale as soon as I am finished developing my current reprap.(hopefully by Dec 2011)<br />
But since it is a pain getting parts here in Alberta(as I had to import almost all my stuff)once I get up and running,<br />
I am willing to cut a price break to anyone who lives in Alberta. But that requires me getting this done quick.<br />
<br />
If you do live in alberta or want to be contacted when this stuff goes down <br />
(cause I will only have enough for about 40kits to start)<br />
<br />
Contact me<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
But in the mean time, Here is info about me, my goals, status<br />
<br />
== Profile ==<br />
(Yes I know, Not everyone likes to be Profiled, but it does help the police find people.)<br />
*'''Name:''' David<br />
*'''Age:''' 24<br />
*'''Country:''' Canada<br />
*'''Province:''' Alberta<br />
*'''City:''' Lethbridge (As if you couldn't get that from my University)<br />
*'''Schooling:''' Currently attending the University of Lethbridge.<br />
*'''Field of Study:''' Combined Computer Science and Business Management w/ Minor in Information Systems.<br />
:::(sounds busy doesn't it?)<br />
*'''Likes:''' almost all Food, Computers, Robotics, Woodworking, Challenges I can learn from, Girls (Of Course).<br />
*'''Dislikes:''' People who willingly cease to use their brains for thought, or anything useful for that matter.<br />
:::Note:''Please donate unused brains to your nearest starving Zombie''<br />
*'''Future Aspirations:''' To start my own technology development company/school. (aka to be a modern day inventor, that actually gets paid)<br />
<br />
<br />
== My Goals: ==<br />
*To build a RepStrap/CNC platform that has quickly Interchangeable/Multiple Tool-heads.<br />
*To contribute to the RepRap community, via wiki, and hopefully The sale of RepRaps kits/parts to help this community grow.<br />
*Learn More than what I already know.<br />
*To help in the development of a basic sewing machine / Embroidery attachment for the RepRap.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
== Current Status: ==<br />
'''Acquiring Parts / Starting to Assemble''' <br />
:Here is what I have so far:<br />
*'''Motors:''' <br />
:100 Sanyo Denki, Nema 17, Bi-Polar 6 wire stepper motors, Type: 102H5208-10U41 , 59oz-in holding torque.<br />
::[[File:Sanyo103H5208.pdf]]<br />
::with a 21 tooth MXL 1/4" wide pulley on each. Cost: ''PRICELESS steal!''<br />
::cost me $114 bucks for the whole lot. But, shipping and import fees where $165 so it came to $278<br />
::but $278/100 = $2.78 for each motor with shipping... hmmmm. these motors sell at $15-40 on ebay... ($60 new)<br />
::However, getting the data sheet for theses was a royal pain, even at that I still need to update it.<br />
:60 T&L International Stepping motor, Bi-Polar 6 wire stepping motor, Type: 42BYG401-06A, apx 31+oz-in holding torque<br />
::with a 28 tooth mxl 1/4 brass pulley on each. Cost: '''Almost''' a Priceless steal.<br />
::little bit more pricey about $300 with import fees<br />
::$300 / 60 = $5 each with shipping, but they still have a gear head and it is the same sad story on ebay $15-40<br />
::Now data on these was even harder to find but I have some and am going to make a cad scehmatic soon<br />
*'''The Brain (aka BRAINS! or motherboard for the non-Zombie fans):''' <br />
:I purchase a [http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/seeeduino-mega-p-717.html?cPath=132_133&zenid=61ee232a52bb9c8bc4c8ce011a544b3e "Seeedduino mega"] when it was on sale<br />
::I think it is are great so I am planning on using it(even if it is overkill). <br />
*'''Motor Drivers:''' <br />
:I bought components for [http://www.schmalzhaus.com/EasyDriver/ "EasyDrivers"] <br />
::They will provide 750mAmps at 30v per phase<br />
::you can buy them from Sparkfun.com but I wanted to make my own)<br />
*'''Structure (aka Frame):''' <br />
:8 Hardened steel rods I salvaged from a bunch of old printers for the slides (free - 2hrs salvage)<br />
:6 3ft 5/16 galvanized Threaded rods ($3 each, got them on sale at princess auto)<br />
:apx 20+ nuts ( DANG expensive at home depot, or home hardware at +$0.26 each, buy them at totem for $0.12 instead)<br />
:100+ 1/4 USS washers (+$0.12 each, so I bought a box of a hundred at $0.05 each instead.)<br />
:::USS type are NOT CONSISTENT IN THICKNESS(0.51" - 0.90"), they need presorting so they are 0.01" of eachother<br />
*'''Corners (aka the pieces that make those annoying angles):''' <br />
:I am cutting the intial ones out of 3/4 MDF which I will seal using wood hardener or glue-water mix.<br />
<br /><br />
So in essence My first reprap will actually be a repstrap/ wolfstrap since it uses wood, but hey it is cheaper than trying to buy the plastic parts since anyone I can find wants to charge a (explicit descriptive here) for them.<br />
<br /> <br /><br />
(The only reason this is not on a development page yet, is because I am still getting parts, taking pictures, procrastinating, assembling stuff, making excuses, writing essays)(OK, it is really cause I havent got to it yet, but I will as soon as summer semester is over (around Aug 16th)) <br />
Yay! --[[User:Sebastien Bailard|Sebastien Bailard]] 07:05, 11 April 2011 (UTC)</div>Dfk20012002https://reprap.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=File:Sanyo103H5208.pdf&diff=43212File:Sanyo103H5208.pdf2011-10-14T09:48:56Z<p>Dfk20012002: This is a motor spec sheet for dfk20012002</p>
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<div>This is a motor spec sheet for dfk20012002</div>Dfk20012002https://reprap.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Interactive_RepRap_Family_Tree&diff=43138Interactive RepRap Family Tree2011-10-12T07:00:37Z<p>Dfk20012002: </p>
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<div>This is an image map version of the reprap family tree, the idea is that if you want to jump to a project just click on the name. (hovering over it shows where you will be going) <br /><br />
I find it easier to get to where I want on a tree like structure then sorting thru lists (yes I know we have search but hey I think this is cool)<br />
Please use the discussion page, I would love to here ideas, and find out if there are problems.<br />
:As a note there are only 70 links added so far, but I will finish it off soon.<br />
<br />
<imagemap><br />
Image:RFT_timeline2006-2012.png|1683px|RepRap Family Tree<br />
<br />
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rect 36 340 143 361 [[Category:Experimental_developments]]<br />
rect 36 320 143 341 [[Category:Working_developments]]<br />
rect 15 65 144 264 [http://www.reprap.org/wiki/RepRap_Family_Tree RepRap Family Tree Original Page]<br />
rect 41 760 146 874 [[Main_Page]]<br />
rect 818 597 898 655 [[Mendel]]<br />
rect 455 798 535 854 [[Darwin]]<br />
rect 1019 500 1196 532 [[Mini-Mendel]]<br />
rect 1127 233 1229 304 [[Prusa]]<br />
rect 552 917 642 938 [[McWire_Cartesian_Bot_1_2]]<br />
rect 996 1023 1086 1063 [[Delta Delta]]<br />
rect 730 784 832 825 [[Lego_RepStrap]]<br />
rect 1149 1461 1278 1502 [http://www.makerbot.com/ Makerbot.com]<br />
rect 1036 1503 1165 1534 [[Pirated_CupCake]]<br />
rect 833 1485 962 1516 [http://wiki.makerbot.com/cupcake Cupcake]<br />
rect 1296 1507 1406 1526 [http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:8361 Super!CupcakeMK2 on Thingiverse (Obsolete see Super!CupcakeMK3)]<br />
rect 1330 1525 1446 1549 [http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:9423 Super!CupcakeMK3 on Thingiverse]<br />
rect 492 1570 608 1594 [[RapMan]]<br />
rect 936 1554 1379 1578 [http://www.bitsfrombytes.com/ bitsfrombytes.com]<br />
rect 934 1590 1129 1627 [[Rap@Home]]<br />
rect 391 1636 961 1660 [http://wiki.candyfab.org/CandyFab_Mechanical_Design CandyFab Wiki]<br />
rect 302 1617 872 1637 [http://www.fabathome.org/ Fab@Home]<br />
rect 487 1599 606 1619 [http://fab.cba.mit.edu/classes/MIT/863.07/11.05/fabaroni/ Fabaroni]<br />
rect 200 808 319 894 [[ShowCase]]<br />
rect 446 1660 639 1685 [http://3dhomemade.blogspot.com/ 3dhomemade blog]<br />
rect 586 893 738 918 [[PonokoRepRap]]<br />
rect 714 865 836 895 [[FTIStrap]]<br />
rect 1241 708 1331 727 [[Mendel]]<br />
rect 900 778 990 808 [[MegaMendel]]<br />
rect 848 831 938 861 [[Builders/JunkStrap]]<br />
rect 929 762 1000 779 [[Mendel_Apollo]]<br />
rect 961 870 1032 895 [[Eiffel]]<br />
rect 974 744 1059 764 [[Metal_Mendel]]<br />
rect 999 1091 1084 1134 [[RepOlaRap]]<br />
rect 1018 726 1091 746 [[Mendel_Variations/Catalyst]]<br />
rect 1027 894 1100 923 [[Contraptor]]<br />
rect 1041 555 1114 584 [[WolfStrap]]<br />
rect 1040 582 1132 602 [[Isaac]]<br />
rect 1061 1173 1133 1204 [[MultiRep]]<br />
rect 1057 603 1164 625 [[LaserCut_Mendel]]<br />
rect 1054 1140 1161 1160 [[Bonsai_RepStrap]]<br />
rect 1061 1401 1373 1421 [http://wiki.shapercube.com/Home Shapercube Wiki]]<br />
rect 1065 832 1165 857 [http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:8609 LeBigRep on Thingiverse]<br />
rect 1094 704 1166 729 [[Foton_3Dprinter Foton 3D Printer]]<br />
rect 994 845 1066 870 [[T-Rep]]<br />
rect 1100 1420 1204 1445 [http://pp3dp.com/ Up!3d Printer on pp3dp.com]<br />
rect 1112 1115 1195 1140 [[Francisco]]<br />
rect 1136 1159 1208 1184 [[Columbus]]<br />
rect 1131 1310 1218 1347 [[MetalicaRap]]<br />
rect 1149 1087 1213 1111 [[TRap]]<br />
rect 1155 756 1226 785 [[Big_Mendel]]<br />
rect 1151 415 1245 439 [[Huxley_Seedling]]<br />
rect 1161 952 1255 976 [[Mantis_9.1]]<br />
rect 1153 867 1247 891 [[Kludgebot]]<br />
rect 1166 1068 1260 1087 [[Helium_Frog_Delta_Robot]]<br />
rect 1186 546 1347 567 [[Integrated_Parametric_RepRap]]<br />
rect 1188 1048 1255 1069 [[FabPod]]<br />
rect 1182 829 1249 857 [[Doboz]]<br />
rect 1188 1226 1255 1270 [[Ultimaker]]<br />
rect 1191 87 1300 115 [http://www.makergear.com/products/3d-printers Makergear Prusa]<br />
rect 1205 439 1299 456 [http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4986 Rusty Huxley on Thingiverse]<br />
rect 1197 930 1291 952 [[Gunstrap]]<br />
rect 1207 525 1301 547 [[TechZoneHuxley]]<br />
rect 1198 370 1278 392 [[Malthus]]<br />
rect 1224 455 1321 476 [[EMAKER_Huxley]]<br />
rect 1226 392 1323 413 [[Mixtape_mendel]]<br />
rect 1223 726 1320 747 [[MendeLego]]<br />
rect 1244 992 1365 1014 [[PolyBot]]<br />
rect 1238 1357 1359 1379 [[A5_Powder_bed_printer]]<br />
rect 1238 114 1316 133 [[Clonedel]]<br />
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<div>This is an image map version of the reprap family tree, the idea is that if you want to jump to a project just click on the name.<br /><br />
I find it easier to get to where I want on a tree like structure then sorting thru lists (yes I know we have search but hey I think this is cool)<br />
Please use the discussion page, I would love to here ideas, and find out if there are problems.<br />
:As a note there are only 70 links added so far, but I will finish it off soon.<br />
<br />
<imagemap><br />
Image:RFT_timeline2006-2012.png|1683px|RepRap Family Tree<br />
<br />
rect 36 359 143 380 [[Category:Concept_developments]]<br />
rect 36 340 143 361 [[Category:Experimental_developments]]<br />
rect 36 320 143 341 [[Category:Working_developments]]<br />
rect 15 65 144 264 [http://www.reprap.org/wiki/RepRap_Family_Tree RepRap Family Tree Original Page]<br />
rect 41 760 146 874 [[Main_Page]]<br />
rect 818 597 898 655 [[Mendel]]<br />
rect 455 798 535 854 [[Darwin]]<br />
rect 1019 500 1196 532 [[Mini-Mendel]]<br />
rect 1127 233 1229 304 [[Prusa]]<br />
rect 552 917 642 938 [[McWire_Cartesian_Bot_1_2]]<br />
rect 996 1023 1086 1063 [[Delta Delta]]<br />
rect 730 784 832 825 [[Lego_RepStrap]]<br />
rect 1149 1461 1278 1502 [http://www.makerbot.com/ Makerbot.com]<br />
rect 1036 1503 1165 1534 [[Pirated_CupCake]]<br />
rect 833 1485 962 1516 [http://wiki.makerbot.com/cupcake Cupcake]<br />
rect 1296 1507 1406 1526 [http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:8361 Super!CupcakeMK2 on Thingiverse (Obsolete see Super!CupcakeMK3)]<br />
rect 1330 1525 1446 1549 [http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:9423 Super!CupcakeMK3 on Thingiverse]<br />
rect 492 1570 608 1594 [[RapMan]]<br />
rect 936 1554 1379 1578 [http://www.bitsfrombytes.com/ bitsfrombytes.com]<br />
rect 934 1590 1129 1627 [[Rap@Home]]<br />
rect 391 1636 961 1660 [http://wiki.candyfab.org/CandyFab_Mechanical_Design CandyFab Wiki]<br />
rect 302 1617 872 1637 [http://www.fabathome.org/ Fab@Home]<br />
rect 487 1599 606 1619 [http://fab.cba.mit.edu/classes/MIT/863.07/11.05/fabaroni/ Fabaroni]<br />
rect 200 808 319 894 [[ShowCase]]<br />
rect 446 1660 639 1685 [http://3dhomemade.blogspot.com/ 3dhomemade blog]<br />
rect 586 893 738 918 [[PonokoRepRap]]<br />
rect 714 865 836 895 [[FTIStrap]]<br />
rect 1241 708 1331 727 [[Mendel]]<br />
rect 900 778 990 808 [[MegaMendel]]<br />
rect 848 831 938 861 [[Builders/JunkStrap]]<br />
rect 929 762 1000 779 [[Mendel_Apollo]]<br />
rect 961 870 1032 895 [[Eiffel]]<br />
rect 974 744 1059 764 [[Metal_Mendel]]<br />
rect 999 1091 1084 1134 [[RepOlaRap]]<br />
rect 1018 726 1091 746 [[Mendel_Variations/Catalyst]]<br />
rect 1027 894 1100 923 [[Contraptor]]<br />
rect 1041 555 1114 584 [[WolfStrap]]<br />
rect 1040 582 1132 602 [[Isaac]]<br />
rect 1061 1173 1133 1204 [[MultiRep]]<br />
rect 1057 603 1164 625 [[LaserCut_Mendel]]<br />
rect 1054 1140 1161 1160 [[Bonsai_RepStrap]]<br />
rect 1061 1401 1373 1421 [http://wiki.shapercube.com/Home Shapercube Wiki]]<br />
rect 1065 832 1165 857 [http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:8609 LeBigRep on Thingiverse]<br />
rect 1094 704 1166 729 [[Foton_3Dprinter Foton 3D Printer]]<br />
rect 994 845 1066 870 [[T-Rep]]<br />
rect 1100 1420 1204 1445 [http://pp3dp.com/ Up!3d Printer on pp3dp.com]<br />
rect 1112 1115 1195 1140 [[Francisco]]<br />
rect 1136 1159 1208 1184 [[Columbus]]<br />
rect 1131 1310 1218 1347 [[MetalicaRap]]<br />
rect 1149 1087 1213 1111 [[TRap]]<br />
rect 1155 756 1226 785 [[Big_Mendel]]<br />
rect 1151 415 1245 439 [[Huxley_Seedling]]<br />
rect 1161 952 1255 976 [[Mantis_9.1]]<br />
rect 1153 867 1247 891 [[Kludgebot]]<br />
rect 1166 1068 1260 1087 [[Helium_Frog_Delta_Robot]]<br />
rect 1186 546 1347 567 [[Integrated_Parametric_RepRap]]<br />
rect 1188 1048 1255 1069 [[FabPod]]<br />
rect 1182 829 1249 857 [[Doboz]]<br />
rect 1188 1226 1255 1270 [[Ultimaker]]<br />
rect 1191 87 1300 115 [http://www.makergear.com/products/3d-printers Makergear Prusa]<br />
rect 1205 439 1299 456 [http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4986 Rusty Huxley on Thingiverse]<br />
rect 1197 930 1291 952 [[Gunstrap]]<br />
rect 1207 525 1301 547 [[TechZoneHuxley]]<br />
rect 1198 370 1278 392 [[Malthus]]<br />
rect 1224 455 1321 476 [[EMAKER_Huxley]]<br />
rect 1226 392 1323 413 [[Mixtape_mendel]]<br />
rect 1223 726 1320 747 [[MendeLego]]<br />
rect 1244 992 1365 1014 [[PolyBot]]<br />
rect 1238 1357 1359 1379 [[A5_Powder_bed_printer]]<br />
rect 1238 114 1316 133 [[Clonedel]]<br />
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Image:RFT_timeline2006-2012.png|1683px|RepRap Family Tree<br />
<br />
rect 36 359 143 380 [[Category:Concept_developments]]<br />
rect 36 340 143 361 [[Category:Experimental_developments]]<br />
rect 36 320 143 341 [[Category:Working_developments]]<br />
rect 15 65 144 264 [http://www.reprap.org/wiki/RepRap_Family_Tree RepRap Family Tree Original Page]<br />
rect 41 760 146 874 [[Main_Page]]<br />
rect 818 597 898 655 [[Mendel]]<br />
rect 455 798 535 854 [[Darwin]]<br />
rect 1019 500 1196 532 [[Mini-Mendel]]<br />
rect 1127 233 1229 304 [[Prusa]]<br />
rect 552 917 642 938 [[McWire_Cartesian_Bot_1_2]]<br />
rect 996 1023 1086 1063 [[Delta Delta]]<br />
rect 730 784 832 825 [[Lego_RepStrap]]<br />
rect 1149 1461 1278 1502 [http://www.makerbot.com/ Makerbot.com]<br />
rect 1036 1503 1165 1534 [[Pirated_CupCake]]<br />
rect 833 1485 962 1516 [http://wiki.makerbot.com/cupcake Cupcake]<br />
rect 1296 1507 1406 1526 [http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:8361 Super!CupcakeMK2 on Thingiverse (Obsolete see Super!CupcakeMK3)]<br />
rect 1330 1525 1446 1549 [http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:9423 Super!CupcakeMK3 on Thingiverse]<br />
rect 492 1570 608 1594 [[RapMan]]<br />
rect 936 1554 1379 1578 [http://www.bitsfrombytes.com/ bitsfrombytes.com]<br />
rect 934 1590 1129 1627 [[Rap@Home]]<br />
rect 391 1636 961 1660 [http://wiki.candyfab.org/CandyFab_Mechanical_Design CandyFab Wiki]<br />
rect 302 1617 872 1637 [http://www.fabathome.org/ Fab@Home]<br />
rect 487 1599 606 1619 [http://fab.cba.mit.edu/classes/MIT/863.07/11.05/fabaroni/ Fabaroni]<br />
rect 200 808 319 894 [[ShowCase]]<br />
rect 446 1660 639 1685 [http://3dhomemade.blogspot.com/ 3dhomemade blog]<br />
rect 586 893 738 918 [[PonokoRepRap]]<br />
rect 714 865 836 895 [[FTIStrap]]<br />
rect 1241 708 1331 727 [[Mendel]]<br />
rect 900 778 990 808 [[MegaMendel]]<br />
rect 848 831 938 861 [[Builders/JunkStrap]]<br />
rect 929 762 1000 779 [[Mendel_Apollo]]<br />
rect 961 870 1032 895 [[Eiffel]]<br />
rect 974 744 1059 764 [[Metal_Mendel]]<br />
rect 999 1091 1084 1134 [[RepOlaRap]]<br />
rect 1018 726 1091 746 [[Mendel_Variations/Catalyst]]<br />
rect 1027 894 1100 923 [[Contraptor]]<br />
rect 1041 555 1114 584 [[WolfStrap]]<br />
rect 1040 582 1132 602 [[Isaac]]<br />
rect 1061 1173 1133 1204 [[MultiRep]]<br />
rect 1057 603 1164 625 [[LaserCut_Mendel]]<br />
rect 1054 1140 1161 1160 [[Bonsai_RepStrap]]<br />
rect 1061 1401 1373 1421 [http://wiki.shapercube.com/Home Shapercube Wiki]]<br />
rect 1065 832 1165 857 [http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:8609 LeBigRep on Thingiverse]<br />
rect 1094 704 1166 729 [[Foton_3Dprinter Foton 3D Printer]]<br />
rect 994 845 1066 870 [[T-Rep]]<br />
rect 1100 1420 1204 1445 [http://pp3dp.com/ Up!3d Printer on pp3dp.com]<br />
rect 1112 1115 1195 1140 [[Francisco]]<br />
rect 1136 1159 1208 1184 [[Columbus]]<br />
rect 1131 1310 1218 1347 [[MetalicaRap]]<br />
rect 1149 1087 1213 1111 [[TRap]]<br />
rect 1155 756 1226 785 [[Big_Mendel]]<br />
rect 1151 415 1245 439 [[Huxley_Seedling]]<br />
rect 1161 952 1255 976 [[Mantis_9.1]]<br />
rect 1153 867 1247 891 [[Kludgebot]]<br />
rect 1166 1068 1260 1087 [[Helium_Frog_Delta_Robot]]<br />
rect 1186 546 1347 567 [[Integrated_Parametric_RepRap]]<br />
rect 1188 1048 1255 1069 [[FabPod]]<br />
rect 1182 829 1249 857 [[Doboz]]<br />
rect 1188 1226 1255 1270 [[Ultimaker]]<br />
rect 1191 87 1300 115 [http://www.makergear.com/products/3d-printers Makergear Prusa]<br />
rect 1205 439 1299 456 [http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4986 Rusty Huxley on Thingiverse]<br />
rect 1197 930 1291 952 [[Gunstrap]]<br />
rect 1207 525 1301 547 [[TechZoneHuxley]]<br />
rect 1198 370 1278 392 [[Malthus]]<br />
rect 1224 455 1321 476 [[EMAKER_Huxley]]<br />
rect 1226 392 1323 413 [[Mixtape_mendel]]<br />
rect 1223 726 1320 747 [[MendeLego]]<br />
rect 1244 992 1365 1014 [[PolyBot]]<br />
rect 1238 1357 1359 1379 [[A5_Powder_bed_printer]]<br />
rect 1238 114 1316 133 [[Clonedel]]<br />
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<div>{{Development<br />
<!--Header--><br />
|name = RepRap_Family_Tree<br />
|status = concept<br />
<!--Image--><br />
|image = Reprap_family_tree_v0.1.png|200px<br />
<!--General--><br />
|description = Project for an illustration of the evolution/variations of the reprap project and the others machines inspired<br />
|license = cc-by-sa<br />
|author = Emmanuel<br />
|reprap =<br />
|categories = artwork<br />
|cadModel = <br />
|url = http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:9088<br />
}}<br />
<br />
== The project ==<br />
=== What ? ===<br />
A friend (Arthur S.) and I had thought to make a sort of "family tree" showing the development and variations of the reprap project (and it's inspired cousins).<br />
<br />
'''The goal''' : is to have a nice graphic and to print some sexy poster, maybe by pre-ordering a batch with the help of a kickstarter'like and to share them with the world.<br />
<br />
The chart is now organized, we may try some other concepts in the futur, from a simple visualization with picto to a machinable version ^^ (printable/engravable)<br />
<br />
=== How can you help? ===<br />
Don't hesitate to mention a missing project, or if you think their is a mistake somewhere.<br />
You can comment on the following thread : [http://forums.reprap.org/read.php?1,81595 reprap family tree]<br />
<br />
You're welcome to [https://flattr.com/thing/301867/RepRap-Family-Tree flattr this], buy a poster, or just share it everywhere :)<br />
<br />
Add ideas, and discuss ways to help make this family tree interactive and more usefull on: [[Interactive RepRap Family Tree]]<br />
<br />
== RepRap Family Tree - Timeline 2006-2012 ==<br />
The latest attempt to visualize the evolution of the reprap and some other printers over time (80+ projects).<br />
<br />
[[File:RFT_timeline2006-2012.png|1500px]]<br />
<br />
As one can presume, since the Mendel the projects seems to flourish :)<br />
<br />
== References ==<br />
'''2006'''<br />
[[ShowCase]] (Da Witch/Zaphod, RepStrap, Tommelise, A.R.N.I.E.),<br />
[http://wiki.candyfab.org/CandyFab_Mechanical_Design Candyfab] (aug-may),<br />
[http://fabathome.org/?q=node/1 Fab@home] (27oct),<br />
<br />
'''2007'''<br />
[[Darwin]] (07jul),<br />
[[RapMan]] (),<br />
[http://fab.cba.mit.edu/classes/MIT/863.07/11.05/fabaroni/ Fabaroni] (fall),<br />
[[McWire_Cartesian_Bot_1_2]] (06dec),<br />
[http://3dhomemade.blogspot.com 3dhomemade J.Veloso] (start somewhere in 2007)<br />
<br />
'''2008'''<br />
[[PonokoRepRap]] (22feb),<br />
[[Lego_RepStrap]] (08oct),<br />
[[FTIStrap]] (21oct)<br />
<br />
'''2009'''<br />
[http://wiki.makerbot.com/cupcake Makerbot cupcake] (17apr),<br />
[[Mendel]] (),<br />
[[MegaMendel]] (07jul),<br />
[[Builders/JunkStrap]] (28may)<br />
[[Mendel_Apollo]] (17sep),<br />
[http://fabbaloo.com/blog/2009/10/26/rapman-goes-pro.html Rapman-Pro] (26oct),<br />
[[Eiffel]] (06nov),<br />
[[Metal_Mendel]] (09nov)<br />
<br />
'''2010'''<br />
[[RepOlaRap]] (08jan),<br />
[[Delta]] (10jan),<br />
[[T-Rep]] (15jan),<br />
Mini-mendel (09feb),<br />
[[Mendel_Variations/Catalyst]] (21feb),<br />
[[Contraptor]] (22feb),<br />
[[WolfStrap]] (3mar),<br />
[[Isaac]] (27march),<br />
Cupcakestrap [[cupcake]] (01apr),<br />
[[MultiRep]] (08apr),<br />
[[LaserCut_Mendel]] (10apr),<br />
[[Bonsai_RepStrap]] (14apr),<br />
[http://wiki.shapercube.com Shapercube] (apr),<br />
[http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:8609 Le Big Rep] (18may),<br />
Bfb3000 (24may),<br />
[[Foton_3Dprinter]] (19jun),<br />
[http://pp3dp.com/ Up!3dprinter] (21jun),<br />
[[Francisco]] (05jul),<br />
[[Columbus]] (04aug),<br />
[[Prusa]] (20aug),<br />
[[MetalicaRap]] (26aug),<br />
[[Huxley]] (30aug),<br />
[[TRap]] (02sep),<br />
[[Big_Mendel]] (05sep),<br />
[[Huxley_Seedling]] (10sep),<br />
Makerbot [http://store.makerbot.com/makerbot-thing-o-matic.html Thing-O-Matic] (25sep),<br />
[[Mantis_9.1]] (15oct),<br />
[[Kludgebot]] (22oct),<br />
[[Helium_Frog_Delta_Robot]] (26oct),<br />
[[FabPod]] (08nov),<br />
[[Doboz]] (10nov),<br />
[[Integrated_Parametric_RepRap]] (26nov),<br />
[[Ultimaker]] (29nov),<br />
[http://www.makergear.com/products/3d-printers Makergear Prusa] (nov-dec),<br />
[http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4986 Rusty-Huxley] (or Prusa-Huxley) (01dec),<br />
[[Gunstrap]] (12dec),<br />
[[TechZoneHuxley]] (25dec),<br />
[[Malthus]] (26dec),<br />
[[Rap@Home]] (29dec),<br />
<br />
'''2011'''<br />
[http://wiki.shapercube.com/Home Shapercube] 2.0 (?),<br />
[[EMAKER_Huxley]] (17jan),<br />
[[Mixtape_mendel]] (31jan),<br />
[[MendeLego]] (31jan?),<br />
Yazzo [[PolyBot]] Cranberry (01feb),<br />
[[A5_Powder_bed_printer]] (15feb),<br />
[[Clonedel]] (15feb),<br />
[http://www.mendel-parts.com/downloads/stl/Mendel_v2/ Mendel v2 camiel's redesign] (feb),<br />
Reprap [[1X2]] (22feb),<br />
[[Sumpod_3D]] (07mar)<br />
[[IKBot]] (09mar),<br />
[[AdderFab]] (15mar),<br />
[http://www.flickr.com/photos/23609505@N08/5752789480/in/photostream/ Huxley MD] (19mar),<br />
[[1X2_Tallcat]] (28mar),<br />
Yazzo Polybot [http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:7554 derivative] (03apr),<br />
[[MiniMaker]] (08apr),<br />
[http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:7698 Type A Printer MK1] (10apr),<br />
[[Orca]] (21apr),<br />
[[1X2_Shortcat]] (30apr),<br />
[[Betzbot]] (06may),<br />
[[Gen_X]] (20may),<br />
[[RobunDel]] (22may),<br />
[[Kinirap]] (23may),<br />
[http://blog.3dsystems.com/2011/05/new-bits-from-bytes-3d-printer.html Bfb3000 Plus] (24may),<br />
[http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:8361 SUPER! Cupcake] (24may),<br />
[[TechZone_InfoHub#TZ_Mondo]] (26may),<br />
[[Test_Tube_Mendel]] (02jun),<br />
[http://blog.reprap.org/2011/06/getting-rid-of-mendels-nuts.html Vik's mendel] (03jun),<br />
[http://www.makergear.com/blogs/frontpage/3323752-the-makergear-mosaic-3d-printer Makergear Mosaic] (04jun)<br />
[[Snapdragon]] (05jun),<br />
[[Adrians_Prusa_Notes]] (11jun),<br />
[http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:9317 Yazzo Polybot Raspberry] (14jun),<br />
[[K'nexStrap]] (16jun),<br />
[[Bigfoot]] (27jun),<br />
[[Mini_prusa]] (27jun),<br />
[http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:9942 Repstrap Jibaro] (09jul),<br />
[http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:10029 Cube Vector] (12jul),<br />
[http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:9423 Super! Cupcake mk3] (12jul),<br />
[[SugarSnap]] (20jul),<br />
[[Huxley-eg]] (17jul),<br />
[http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:10343 Deadalus 3D] (25jul),<br />
[http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:10383 Cube] (27jul),<br />
Kliment's Prusa12 (12mm rod Big Prusa) (04aug),<br />
[[Open_Hybrid_Mendel|Open Hybrid Mendel (Ohm)]] 23aug,<br />
[http://forums.reprap.org/read.php?1,94221 Yarr] (aug?),<br />
[http://grrf.de/2011/09/01/protos-v1-0-3d-printer-trailer/ GRRF Protos] (03sept),<br />
<br />
===Next revision : 3.2===<br />
Post-it for future modifications.<br />
<br />
Machine(+link)/date/status<br />
<br />
*[http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:6700 Tilt printer] feb/experimental<br />
*[[Kiwi-M5_Mendel_Battle_Tank]] jan/working<br />
*[[IceBot]] mar/concept<br />
*[[Action68%27s_vertical_x_axis_reprap]] 6jul/concept<br />
*[http://forums.reprap.org/read.php?1,95108,95680#msg-95680 Nophead's design] (before)aug/concept<br />
*[[Printrbot]] 04sep/working<br />
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjZghBCSg_0 Orca v0.30] sep/working<br />
*Fablicator (?/commercial)<br />
*Solidoodle (?/commercial?)<br />
<br />
<br />
*add the page url<br />
*rename the "skb kiparis" by "Gen-X"<br />
*move Open Hybrid Mendel closer to Hybird branch (mixtape and all)<br />
<br />
== Files ==<br />
{|class="wikitable" style="margin: 1em auto 1em auto;"<br />
|- style="background-color:#999999;" <br />
! FILE ID#<br />
! TYPE<br />
! DESCRIPTION<br />
! AVAILABLE FORMATS<br />
! CREATED/BY<br />
|-<br />
| v3<br />
| SVG<br />
| vector version<br />
| [[media:RFT_timeline2006-2012.svg|.svg (save as)]]<br />
| [[User:Emmanuel|--Emmanuel]]<br />
|-<br />
| v3<br />
| PDF<br />
| Printable vector version<br />
| [[media:RFT_timeline2006-2012.pdf|.pdf (save as)]]<br />
| [[User:Emmanuel|--Emmanuel]]<br />
|-<br />
| v3<br />
| PNG<br />
| web/screen resolution<br />
| [[media:RFT_timeline2006-2012.png|.png (save as)]]<br />
| [[User:Emmanuel|--Emmanuel]]<br />
|-<br />
|<br />
|<br />
| Thingiverse mirror<br />
| [http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:9088 thing:9088]<br />
| [[User:Emmanuel|--Emmanuel]]<br />
|-<br />
| v3<br />
| AI CS4<br />
| Source file<br />
| [http://www.thingiverse.com/download:37233 .ai (save as)]<br />
| [[User:Emmanuel|--Emmanuel]]<br />
|-<br />
|}<br />
Download and print-it-yourself.<br />
Or buy a poster at [http://www.zazzle.com/watsdesign/gifts?cg=196714686567963605 Zazzle] if you prefer (I ordered one to see and the [http://www.flickr.com/photos/watsdesign/5912686247/ quality] is good).<br />
For more details about the formats see the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_216 ISO_216].<br />
<br />
If you want to support me, you can also use [https://flattr.com/thing/301867/RepRap-Family-Tree flattr]<br />
<br />
<br />
The picture of the Prusa was made with the sketchup model found [https://github.com/garyhodgson/prusa_mendel_visual_instructions here]<br />
<br />
'''Other version'''<br />
<br />
[[media:RFT_timeline2006-2012_extended.png|v2.13x]], [[media:RFT_timeline2006-2012_extended_print.jpg|print version]]<br />
<br />
[[media:RFT_timeline2006-2012.png|v2.9]], [[media:RFT_timeline2006-2012_print.jpg|print version]]<br />
<br />
[[media:RFT_timeline2006-2012_extended_L.png|v3xL (wip)]] same as v2x but in a landscape format to give more room for the futur icons<br />
<br />
[[media:RFT_timeline2006-2012_extended_P.png|v2.5 extended portrait]]<br />
<br />
[[media:RFT_timeline2006-2012_P.png|v2.2P]]<br />
<br />
'''Reprap Family Tree v0.7'''<br />
<br />
You can see/edit the first diagram at https://cacoo.com/diagrams/wKA1saahe1vsKQjW (just take care of course)<br />
It was useful to start the organization.<br />
<br />
'''To Do ?'''<br />
Add a comparison table of the different machines (for some spec) as a legend (maybe that's another project).<br />
[https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Alcc-Ko5QEEMdGdkTXY1TU5yS3lWTHZjUXlMSUxhWWc&hl=en RepRap - Tableau comparatif], just for the link, we need to refine that.<br />
<br />
From an old mail found about a classification of each machines of every user, we may keep this terminology to add in the comparison table<br />
*number of heads (1, 2, 3)<br />
*axes topology head: XZ or XY or XYZ or "other"<br />
*axes topology table: Z or X or Y or XY or "other"<br />
<br />
== Related Links ==<br />
<br />
[[RepRap_history]]<br />
<br />
[[BackgroundPage]] (Wealth Without Money/Darwinian Marxism)<br />
<br />
[http://www.3dreplicators.com/cgi-bin/cblog/index.php?/archives/499-After-Darwin-Should-Mendel-be-a-specific-3D-printer-or-a-technology-toolbox.html After Darwin Should Mendel be a specific 3D printer or a technology toolbox] (16-01-2009)<br />
<br />
An interesting post by Forrest Higgs, when looking at the evolution model of the reprap.<br />
<br />
:Basically, Reprap has two models of evolution going on in parallel.<br />
:In the core team, we see what I will call a punctuated animal model of evolution while the larger reprap community is a very vibrant bacterial model.<br />
<br />
[[Combinatorics_Problem#bacteria-style_evolution]]</div>Dfk20012002https://reprap.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=RepRap_Family_Tree&diff=43134RepRap Family Tree2011-10-12T05:34:59Z<p>Dfk20012002: added website link to shapercube wiki</p>
<hr />
<div>{{Development<br />
<!--Header--><br />
|name = RepRap_Family_Tree<br />
|status = concept<br />
<!--Image--><br />
|image = Reprap_family_tree_v0.1.png|200px<br />
<!--General--><br />
|description = Project for an illustration of the evolution/variations of the reprap project and the others machines inspired<br />
|license = cc-by-sa<br />
|author = Emmanuel<br />
|reprap =<br />
|categories = artwork<br />
|cadModel = <br />
|url = http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:9088<br />
}}<br />
<br />
== The project ==<br />
=== What ? ===<br />
A friend (Arthur S.) and I had thought to make a sort of "family tree" showing the development and variations of the reprap project (and it's inspired cousins).<br />
<br />
'''The goal''' : is to have a nice graphic and to print some sexy poster, maybe by pre-ordering a batch with the help of a kickstarter'like and to share them with the world.<br />
<br />
The chart is now organized, we may try some other concepts in the futur, from a simple visualization with picto to a machinable version ^^ (printable/engravable)<br />
<br />
=== How can you help? ===<br />
Don't hesitate to mention a missing project, or if you think their is a mistake somewhere.<br />
You can comment on the following thread : [http://forums.reprap.org/read.php?1,81595 reprap family tree]<br />
<br />
You're welcome to [https://flattr.com/thing/301867/RepRap-Family-Tree flattr this], buy a poster, or just share it everywhere :)<br />
<br />
Add ideas, and discuss ways to help make this family tree interactive and more usefull on: [[Interactive RepRap Family Tree]]<br />
<br />
== RepRap Family Tree - Timeline 2006-2012 ==<br />
The latest attempt to visualize the evolution of the reprap and some other printers over time (80+ projects).<br />
<br />
[[File:RFT_timeline2006-2012.png|1500px]]<br />
<br />
As one can presume, since the Mendel the projects seems to flourish :)<br />
<br />
== References ==<br />
'''2006'''<br />
[[ShowCase]] (Da Witch/Zaphod, RepStrap, Tommelise, A.R.N.I.E.),<br />
[http://wiki.candyfab.org/CandyFab_Mechanical_Design Candyfab] (aug-may),<br />
[http://fabathome.org/?q=node/1 Fab@home] (27oct),<br />
<br />
'''2007'''<br />
[[Darwin]] (07jul),<br />
[[RapMan]] (),<br />
[http://fab.cba.mit.edu/classes/MIT/863.07/11.05/fabaroni/ Fabaroni] (fall),<br />
[[McWire_Cartesian_Bot_1_2]] (06dec),<br />
[http://3dhomemade.blogspot.com 3dhomemade J.Veloso] (start somewhere in 2007)<br />
<br />
'''2008'''<br />
[[PonokoRepRap]] (22feb),<br />
[[Lego_RepStrap]] (08oct),<br />
[[FTIStrap]] (21oct)<br />
<br />
'''2009'''<br />
[http://wiki.makerbot.com/cupcake Makerbot cupcake] (17apr),<br />
[[Mendel]] (),<br />
[[MegaMendel]] (07jul),<br />
[[Builders/JunkStrap]] (28may)<br />
[[Mendel_Apollo]] (17sep),<br />
[http://fabbaloo.com/blog/2009/10/26/rapman-goes-pro.html Rapman-Pro] (26oct),<br />
[[Eiffel]] (06nov),<br />
[[Metal_Mendel]] (09nov)<br />
<br />
'''2010'''<br />
[[RepOlaRap]] (08jan),<br />
[[Delta]] (10jan),<br />
[[T-Rep]] (15jan),<br />
Mini-mendel (09feb),<br />
[[Mendel_Variations/Catalyst]] (21feb),<br />
[[Contraptor]] (22feb),<br />
[[WolfStrap]] (3mar),<br />
[[Isaac]] (27march),<br />
Cupcakestrap [[cupcake]] (01apr),<br />
[[MultiRep]] (08apr),<br />
[[LaserCut_Mendel]] (10apr),<br />
[[Bonsai_RepStrap]] (14apr),<br />
[http://wiki.shapercube.com Shapercube] (apr),<br />
[http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:8609 Le Big Rep] (18may),<br />
Bfb3000 (24may),<br />
[[Foton_3Dprinter]] (19jun),<br />
[http://pp3dp.com/ Up!3dprinter] (21jun),<br />
[[Francisco]] (05jul),<br />
[[Columbus]] (04aug),<br />
[[Prusa]] (20aug),<br />
[[MetalicaRap]] (26aug),<br />
[[Huxley]] (30aug),<br />
[[TRap]] (02sep),<br />
[[Big_Mendel]] (05sep),<br />
[[Huxley_Seedling]] (10sep),<br />
Makerbot [http://store.makerbot.com/makerbot-thing-o-matic.html Thing-O-Matic] (25sep),<br />
[[Mantis_9.1]] (15oct),<br />
[[Kludgebot]] (22oct),<br />
[[Helium_Frog_Delta_Robot]] (26oct),<br />
[[FabPod]] (08nov),<br />
[[Doboz]] (10nov),<br />
[[Integrated_Parametric_RepRap]] (26nov),<br />
[[Ultimaker]] (29nov),<br />
[http://www.makergear.com/products/3d-printers Makergear Prusa] (nov-dec),<br />
[http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4986 Rusty-Huxley] (or Prusa-Huxley) (01dec),<br />
[[Gunstrap]] (12dec),<br />
[[TechZoneHuxley]] (25dec),<br />
[[Malthus]] (26dec),<br />
[[Rap@Home]] (29dec),<br />
<br />
'''2011'''<br />
[http://wiki.shapercube.com/Home Shapercube] 2.0 (?),<br />
[[EMAKER_Huxley]] (17jan),<br />
[[Mixtape_mendel]] (31jan),<br />
Mendel Lego (?),<br />
Yazzo [[PolyBot]] Cranberry (01feb),<br />
[[A5_Powder_bed_printer]] (15feb),<br />
[[Clonedel]] (15feb),<br />
[http://www.mendel-parts.com/downloads/stl/Mendel_v2/ Mendel v2 camiel's redesign] (feb),<br />
Reprap [[1X2]] (22feb),<br />
[[Sumpod_3D]] (07mar)<br />
[[IKBot]] (09mar),<br />
[[AdderFab]] (15mar),<br />
[http://www.flickr.com/photos/23609505@N08/5752789480/in/photostream/ Huxley MD] (19mar),<br />
[[1X2_Tallcat]] (28mar),<br />
Yazzo Polybot [http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:7554 derivative] (03apr),<br />
[[MiniMaker]] (08apr),<br />
[http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:7698 Type A Printer MK1] (10apr),<br />
[[Orca]] (21apr),<br />
[[1X2_Shortcat]] (30apr),<br />
[[Betzbot]] (06may),<br />
[[Gen_X]] (20may),<br />
[[RobunDel]] (22may),<br />
[[Kinirap]] (23may),<br />
[http://blog.3dsystems.com/2011/05/new-bits-from-bytes-3d-printer.html Bfb3000 Plus] (24may),<br />
[http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:8361 SUPER! Cupcake] (24may),<br />
[[TechZone_InfoHub#TZ_Mondo]] (26may),<br />
[[Test_Tube_Mendel]] (02jun),<br />
[http://blog.reprap.org/2011/06/getting-rid-of-mendels-nuts.html Vik's mendel] (03jun),<br />
[http://www.makergear.com/blogs/frontpage/3323752-the-makergear-mosaic-3d-printer Makergear Mosaic] (04jun)<br />
[[Snapdragon]] (05jun),<br />
[[Adrians_Prusa_Notes]] (11jun),<br />
[http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:9317 Yazzo Polybot Raspberry] (14jun),<br />
[[K'nexStrap]] (16jun),<br />
[[Bigfoot]] (27jun),<br />
[[Mini_prusa]] (27jun),<br />
[http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:9942 Repstrap Jibaro] (09jul),<br />
[http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:10029 Cube Vector] (12jul),<br />
[http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:9423 Super! Cupcake mk3] (12jul),<br />
[[SugarSnap]] (20jul),<br />
[[Huxley-eg]] (17jul),<br />
[http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:10343 Deadalus 3D] (25jul),<br />
[http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:10383 Cube] (27jul),<br />
Kliment's Prusa12 (12mm rod Big Prusa) (04aug),<br />
[[Open_Hybrid_Mendel|Open Hybrid Mendel (Ohm)]] 23aug,<br />
[http://forums.reprap.org/read.php?1,94221 Yarr] (aug?),<br />
[http://grrf.de/2011/09/01/protos-v1-0-3d-printer-trailer/ GRRF Protos] (03sept),<br />
<br />
===Next revision : 3.2===<br />
Post-it for future modifications.<br />
<br />
Machine(+link)/date/status<br />
<br />
*[http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:6700 Tilt printer] feb/experimental<br />
*[[Kiwi-M5_Mendel_Battle_Tank]] jan/working<br />
*[[IceBot]] mar/concept<br />
*[[Action68%27s_vertical_x_axis_reprap]] 6jul/concept<br />
*[http://forums.reprap.org/read.php?1,95108,95680#msg-95680 Nophead's design] (before)aug/concept<br />
*[[Printrbot]] 04sep/working<br />
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjZghBCSg_0 Orca v0.30] sep/working<br />
*Fablicator (?/commercial)<br />
*Solidoodle (?/commercial?)<br />
<br />
<br />
*add the page url<br />
*rename the "skb kiparis" by "Gen-X"<br />
*move Open Hybrid Mendel closer to Hybird branch (mixtape and all)<br />
<br />
== Files ==<br />
{|class="wikitable" style="margin: 1em auto 1em auto;"<br />
|- style="background-color:#999999;" <br />
! FILE ID#<br />
! TYPE<br />
! DESCRIPTION<br />
! AVAILABLE FORMATS<br />
! CREATED/BY<br />
|-<br />
| v3<br />
| SVG<br />
| vector version<br />
| [[media:RFT_timeline2006-2012.svg|.svg (save as)]]<br />
| [[User:Emmanuel|--Emmanuel]]<br />
|-<br />
| v3<br />
| PDF<br />
| Printable vector version<br />
| [[media:RFT_timeline2006-2012.pdf|.pdf (save as)]]<br />
| [[User:Emmanuel|--Emmanuel]]<br />
|-<br />
| v3<br />
| PNG<br />
| web/screen resolution<br />
| [[media:RFT_timeline2006-2012.png|.png (save as)]]<br />
| [[User:Emmanuel|--Emmanuel]]<br />
|-<br />
|<br />
|<br />
| Thingiverse mirror<br />
| [http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:9088 thing:9088]<br />
| [[User:Emmanuel|--Emmanuel]]<br />
|-<br />
| v3<br />
| AI CS4<br />
| Source file<br />
| [http://www.thingiverse.com/download:37233 .ai (save as)]<br />
| [[User:Emmanuel|--Emmanuel]]<br />
|-<br />
|}<br />
Download and print-it-yourself.<br />
Or buy a poster at [http://www.zazzle.com/watsdesign/gifts?cg=196714686567963605 Zazzle] if you prefer (I ordered one to see and the [http://www.flickr.com/photos/watsdesign/5912686247/ quality] is good).<br />
For more details about the formats see the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_216 ISO_216].<br />
<br />
If you want to support me, you can also use [https://flattr.com/thing/301867/RepRap-Family-Tree flattr]<br />
<br />
<br />
The picture of the Prusa was made with the sketchup model found [https://github.com/garyhodgson/prusa_mendel_visual_instructions here]<br />
<br />
'''Other version'''<br />
<br />
[[media:RFT_timeline2006-2012_extended.png|v2.13x]], [[media:RFT_timeline2006-2012_extended_print.jpg|print version]]<br />
<br />
[[media:RFT_timeline2006-2012.png|v2.9]], [[media:RFT_timeline2006-2012_print.jpg|print version]]<br />
<br />
[[media:RFT_timeline2006-2012_extended_L.png|v3xL (wip)]] same as v2x but in a landscape format to give more room for the futur icons<br />
<br />
[[media:RFT_timeline2006-2012_extended_P.png|v2.5 extended portrait]]<br />
<br />
[[media:RFT_timeline2006-2012_P.png|v2.2P]]<br />
<br />
'''Reprap Family Tree v0.7'''<br />
<br />
You can see/edit the first diagram at https://cacoo.com/diagrams/wKA1saahe1vsKQjW (just take care of course)<br />
It was useful to start the organization.<br />
<br />
'''To Do ?'''<br />
Add a comparison table of the different machines (for some spec) as a legend (maybe that's another project).<br />
[https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Alcc-Ko5QEEMdGdkTXY1TU5yS3lWTHZjUXlMSUxhWWc&hl=en RepRap - Tableau comparatif], just for the link, we need to refine that.<br />
<br />
From an old mail found about a classification of each machines of every user, we may keep this terminology to add in the comparison table<br />
*number of heads (1, 2, 3)<br />
*axes topology head: XZ or XY or XYZ or "other"<br />
*axes topology table: Z or X or Y or XY or "other"<br />
<br />
== Related Links ==<br />
<br />
[[RepRap_history]]<br />
<br />
[[BackgroundPage]] (Wealth Without Money/Darwinian Marxism)<br />
<br />
[http://www.3dreplicators.com/cgi-bin/cblog/index.php?/archives/499-After-Darwin-Should-Mendel-be-a-specific-3D-printer-or-a-technology-toolbox.html After Darwin Should Mendel be a specific 3D printer or a technology toolbox] (16-01-2009)<br />
<br />
An interesting post by Forrest Higgs, when looking at the evolution model of the reprap.<br />
<br />
:Basically, Reprap has two models of evolution going on in parallel.<br />
:In the core team, we see what I will call a punctuated animal model of evolution while the larger reprap community is a very vibrant bacterial model.<br />
<br />
[[Combinatorics_Problem#bacteria-style_evolution]]</div>Dfk20012002https://reprap.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Interactive_RepRap_Family_Tree&diff=43122Interactive RepRap Family Tree2011-10-12T03:04:13Z<p>Dfk20012002: Start of imagemap of the reprap family tree</p>
<hr />
<div>Image map version of RepRap<br />
<br />
<imagemap><br />
Image:RFT_timeline2006-2012.png|1683px|RepRap Family Tree<br />
<br />
default [[Category:Developments_by_status]]<br />
desc none<br />
</imagemap></div>Dfk20012002https://reprap.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=User:Dfk20012002&diff=43121User:Dfk200120022011-10-12T01:57:59Z<p>Dfk20012002: </p>
<hr />
<div>Reprap kits in from Southern Alberta.<br />
<br />
<br />
I will have kits, parts, and complete repraps for sale as soon as I am finished developing my current reprap.(hopefully by Dec 2011)<br />
But since it is a pain getting parts here in Alberta(as I had to import almost all my stuff)once I get up and running,<br />
I am willing to cut a price break to anyone who lives in Alberta. But that requires me getting this done quick.<br />
<br />
If you do live in alberta or want to be contacted when this stuff goes down <br />
(cause I will only have enough for about 40kits to start)<br />
<br />
Contact me<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
But in the mean time, Here is info about me, my goals, status<br />
<br />
== Profile ==<br />
(Yes I know, Not everyone likes to be Profiled, but it does help the police find people.)<br />
*'''Name:''' David<br />
*'''Age:''' 24<br />
*'''Country:''' Canada<br />
*'''Province:''' Alberta<br />
*'''City:''' Lethbridge (As if you couldn't get that from my University)<br />
*'''Schooling:''' Currently attending the University of Lethbridge.<br />
*'''Field of Study:''' Combined Computer Science and Business Management w/ Minor in Information Systems.<br />
:::(sounds busy doesn't it?)<br />
*'''Likes:''' almost all Food, Computers, Robotics, Woodworking, Challenges I can learn from, Girls (Of Course).<br />
*'''Dislikes:''' People who willingly cease to use their brains for thought, or anything useful for that matter.<br />
:::Note:''Please donate unused brains to your nearest starving Zombie''<br />
*'''Future Aspirations:''' To start my own technology development company/school. (aka to be a modern day inventor, that actually gets paid)<br />
<br />
<br />
== My Goals: ==<br />
*To build a RepStrap/CNC platform that has quickly Interchangeable/Multiple Tool-heads.<br />
*To contribute to the RepRap community, via wiki, and hopefully The sale of RepRaps kits/parts to help this community grow.<br />
*Learn More than what I already know.<br />
*To help in the development of a basic sewing machine / Embroidery attachment for the RepRap.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
== Current Status: ==<br />
'''Acquiring Parts / Starting to Assemble''' <br />
:Here is what I have so far:<br />
*'''Motors:''' <br />
:100 Sanyo Denki, Nema 17, Bi-Polar 6 wire stepper motors, Type: 102H5208-10U41 , 59oz-in holding torque.<br />
::with a 21 tooth MXL 1/4" wide pulley on each. Cost: ''PRICELESS steal!''<br />
::cost me $114 bucks for the whole lot. But, shipping and import fees where $165 so it came to $278<br />
::but $278/100 = $2.78 for each motor with shipping... hmmmm. these motors sell at $15-40 on ebay... ($60 new)<br />
::However, getting the data sheet for theses was a royal pain, even at that I still need to update it.<br />
:60 T&L International Stepping motor, Bi-Polar 6 wire stepping motor, Type: 42BYG401-06A, apx 31+oz-in holding torque<br />
::with a 28 tooth mxl 1/4 brass pulley on each. Cost: '''Almost''' a Priceless steal.<br />
::little bit more pricey about $300 with import fees<br />
::$300 / 60 = $5 each with shipping, but they still have a gear head and it is the same sad story on ebay $15-40<br />
::Now data on these was even harder to find but I have some and am going to make a cad scehmatic soon<br />
*'''The Brain (aka BRAINS! or motherboard for the non-Zombie fans):''' <br />
:I purchase a [http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/seeeduino-mega-p-717.html?cPath=132_133&zenid=61ee232a52bb9c8bc4c8ce011a544b3e "Seeedduino mega"] when it was on sale<br />
::I think it is are great so I am planning on using it(even if it is overkill). <br />
*'''Motor Drivers:''' <br />
:I bought components for [http://www.schmalzhaus.com/EasyDriver/ "EasyDrivers"] <br />
::They will provide 750mAmps at 30v per phase<br />
::you can buy them from Sparkfun.com but I wanted to make my own)<br />
*'''Structure (aka Frame):''' <br />
:8 Hardened steel rods I salvaged from a bunch of old printers for the slides (free - 2hrs salvage)<br />
:6 3ft 5/16 galvanized Threaded rods ($3 each, got them on sale at princess auto)<br />
:apx 20+ nuts ( DANG expensive at home depot, or home hardware at +$0.26 each, buy them at totem for $0.12 instead)<br />
:100+ 1/4 USS washers (+$0.12 each, so I bought a box of a hundred at $0.05 each instead.)<br />
:::USS type are NOT CONSISTENT IN THICKNESS(0.51" - 0.90"), they need presorting so they are 0.01" of eachother<br />
*'''Corners (aka the pieces that make those annoying angles):''' <br />
:I am cutting the intial ones out of 3/4 MDF which I will seal using wood hardener or glue-water mix.<br />
<br /><br />
So in essence My first reprap will actually be a repstrap/ wolfstrap since it uses wood, but hey it is cheaper than trying to buy the plastic parts since anyone I can find wants to charge a (explicit descriptive here) for them.<br />
<br /> <br /><br />
(The only reason this is not on a development page yet, is because I am still getting parts, taking pictures, procrastinating, assembling stuff, making excuses, writing essays)(OK, it is really cause I havent got to it yet, but I will as soon as summer semester is over (around Aug 16th)) <br />
Yay! --[[User:Sebastien Bailard|Sebastien Bailard]] 07:05, 11 April 2011 (UTC)</div>Dfk20012002https://reprap.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=User:Dfk20012002&diff=43119User:Dfk200120022011-10-11T23:55:46Z<p>Dfk20012002: </p>
<hr />
<div>Reprap kits in from Southern Alberta.<br />
<br />
<br />
I will have kits, parts, and complete repraps for sale as soon as I am finished developing my current reprap.(hopefully by Dec 2011)<br />
But since it is a pain getting parts here in Alberta(as I had to import almost all my stuff)once I get up and running,<br />
I am willing to cut a price break to anyone who lives in Alberta. But that requires me getting this done quick.<br />
<br />
If you do live in alberta or want to be contacted when this stuff goes down <br />
(cause I will only have enough for about 40kits to start)<br />
<br />
Contact me at:dafoxco@gmail.com<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
But in the mean time, Here is info about me, my goals, status<br />
<br />
== Profile ==<br />
(Yes I know, Not everyone likes to be Profiled, but it does help the police find people.)<br />
*'''Name:''' David<br />
*'''Age:''' 24<br />
*'''Country:''' Canada<br />
*'''Province:''' Alberta<br />
*'''City:''' Lethbridge (As if you couldn't get that from my University)<br />
*'''Schooling:''' Currently attending the University of Lethbridge.<br />
*'''Field of Study:''' Combined Computer Science and Business Management w/ Minor in Information Systems.<br />
:::(sounds busy doesn't it?)<br />
*'''Likes:''' almost all Food, Computers, Robotics, Woodworking, Challenges I can learn from, Girls (Of Course).<br />
*'''Dislikes:''' People who willingly cease to use their brains for thought, or anything useful for that matter.<br />
:::Note:''Please donate unused brains to your nearest starving Zombie''<br />
*'''Future Aspirations:''' To start my own technology development company/school. (aka to be a modern day inventor, that actually gets paid)<br />
<br />
<br />
== My Goals: ==<br />
*To build a RepStrap/CNC platform that has quickly Interchangeable/Multiple Tool-heads.<br />
*To contribute to the RepRap community, via wiki, and hopefully The sale of RepRaps kits/parts to help this community grow.<br />
*Learn More than what I already know.<br />
*To help in the development of a basic sewing machine / Embroidery attachment for the RepRap.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
== Current Status: ==<br />
'''Acquiring Parts / Starting to Assemble''' <br />
:Here is what I have so far:<br />
*'''Motors:''' <br />
:100 Sanyo Denki, Nema 17, Bi-Polar 6 wire stepper motors, Type: 102H5208-10U41 , 59oz-in holding torque.<br />
::with a 21 tooth MXL 1/4" wide pulley on each. Cost: ''PRICELESS steal!''<br />
::cost me $114 bucks for the whole lot. But, shipping and import fees where $165 so it came to $278<br />
::but $278/100 = $2.78 for each motor with shipping... hmmmm. these motors sell at $15-40 on ebay... ($60 new)<br />
::However, getting the data sheet for theses was a royal pain, even at that I still need to update it.<br />
:60 T&L International Stepping motor, Bi-Polar 6 wire stepping motor, Type: 42BYG401-06A, apx 31+oz-in holding torque<br />
::with a 28 tooth mxl 1/4 brass pulley on each. Cost: '''Almost''' a Priceless steal.<br />
::little bit more pricey about $300 with import fees<br />
::$300 / 60 = $5 each with shipping, but they still have a gear head and it is the same sad story on ebay $15-40<br />
::Now data on these was even harder to find but I have some and am going to make a cad scehmatic soon<br />
*'''The Brain (aka BRAINS! or motherboard for the non-Zombie fans):''' <br />
:I purchase a [http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/seeeduino-mega-p-717.html?cPath=132_133&zenid=61ee232a52bb9c8bc4c8ce011a544b3e "Seeedduino mega"] when it was on sale<br />
::I think it is are great so I am planning on using it(even if it is overkill). <br />
*'''Motor Drivers:''' <br />
:I bought components for [http://www.schmalzhaus.com/EasyDriver/ "EasyDrivers"] <br />
::They will provide 750mAmps at 30v per phase<br />
::you can buy them from Sparkfun.com but I wanted to make my own)<br />
*'''Structure (aka Frame):''' <br />
:8 Hardened steel rods I salvaged from a bunch of old printers for the slides (free - 2hrs salvage)<br />
:6 3ft 5/16 galvanized Threaded rods ($3 each, got them on sale at princess auto)<br />
:apx 20+ nuts ( DANG expensive at home depot, or home hardware at +$0.26 each, buy them at totem for $0.12 instead)<br />
:100+ 1/4 USS washers (+$0.12 each, so I bought a box of a hundred at $0.05 each instead.)<br />
:::USS type are NOT CONSISTENT IN THICKNESS(0.51" - 0.90"), they need presorting so they are 0.01" of eachother<br />
*'''Corners (aka the pieces that make those annoying angles):''' <br />
:I am cutting the intial ones out of 3/4 MDF which I will seal using wood hardener or glue-water mix.<br />
<br /><br />
So in essence My first reprap will actually be a repstrap/ wolfstrap since it uses wood, but hey it is cheaper than trying to buy the plastic parts since anyone I can find wants to charge a (explicit descriptive here) for them.<br />
<br /> <br /><br />
(The only reason this is not on a development page yet, is because I am still getting parts, taking pictures, procrastinating, assembling stuff, making excuses, writing essays)(OK, it is really cause I havent got to it yet, but I will as soon as summer semester is over (around Aug 16th)) <br />
Yay! --[[User:Sebastien Bailard|Sebastien Bailard]] 07:05, 11 April 2011 (UTC)</div>Dfk20012002https://reprap.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=RepRap_Family_Tree&diff=43085RepRap Family Tree2011-10-11T17:47:46Z<p>Dfk20012002: Added interactive family tree link</p>
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<div>{{Development<br />
<!--Header--><br />
|name = RepRap_Family_Tree<br />
|status = concept<br />
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|image = Reprap_family_tree_v0.1.png|200px<br />
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|description = Project for an illustration of the evolution/variations of the reprap project and the others machines inspired<br />
|license = cc-by-sa<br />
|author = Emmanuel<br />
|reprap =<br />
|categories = artwork<br />
|cadModel = <br />
|url = http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:9088<br />
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== The project ==<br />
=== What ? ===<br />
A friend (Arthur S.) and I had thought to make a sort of "family tree" showing the development and variations of the reprap project (and it's inspired cousins).<br />
<br />
'''The goal''' : is to have a nice graphic and to print some sexy poster, maybe by pre-ordering a batch with the help of a kickstarter'like and to share them with the world.<br />
<br />
The chart is now organized, we may try some other concepts in the futur, from a simple visualization with picto to a machinable version ^^ (printable/engravable)<br />
<br />
=== How can you help? ===<br />
Don't hesitate to mention a missing project, or if you think their is a mistake somewhere.<br />
You can comment on the following thread : [http://forums.reprap.org/read.php?1,81595 reprap family tree]<br />
<br />
You're welcome to [https://flattr.com/thing/301867/RepRap-Family-Tree flattr this], buy a poster, or just share it everywhere :)<br />
<br />
Add ideas, and discuss ways to help make this family tree interactive and more usefull on: [[Interactive RepRap Family Tree]]<br />
<br />
== RepRap Family Tree - Timeline 2006-2012 ==<br />
The latest attempt to visualize the evolution of the reprap and some other printers over time (80+ projects).<br />
<br />
[[File:RFT_timeline2006-2012.png|1500px]]<br />
<br />
As one can presume, since the Mendel the projects seems to flourish :)<br />
<br />
== References ==<br />
'''2006'''<br />
[[ShowCase]] (Da Witch/Zaphod, RepStrap, Tommelise, A.R.N.I.E.),<br />
[http://wiki.candyfab.org/CandyFab_Mechanical_Design Candyfab] (aug-may),<br />
[http://fabathome.org/?q=node/1 Fab@home] (27oct),<br />
<br />
'''2007'''<br />
[[Darwin]] (07jul),<br />
[[RapMan]] (),<br />
[http://fab.cba.mit.edu/classes/MIT/863.07/11.05/fabaroni/ Fabaroni] (fall),<br />
[[McWire_Cartesian_Bot_1_2]] (06dec),<br />
[http://3dhomemade.blogspot.com 3dhomemade J.Veloso] (start somewhere in 2007)<br />
<br />
'''2008'''<br />
[[PonokoRepRap]] (22feb),<br />
[[Lego_RepStrap]] (08oct),<br />
[[FTIStrap]] (21oct)<br />
<br />
'''2009'''<br />
[http://wiki.makerbot.com/cupcake Makerbot cupcake] (17apr),<br />
[[Mendel]] (),<br />
[[MegaMendel]] (07jul),<br />
[[Builders/JunkStrap]] (28may)<br />
[[Mendel_Apollo]] (17sep),<br />
[http://fabbaloo.com/blog/2009/10/26/rapman-goes-pro.html Rapman-Pro] (26oct),<br />
[[Eiffel]] (06nov),<br />
[[Metal_Mendel]] (09nov)<br />
<br />
'''2010'''<br />
[[RepOlaRap]] (08jan),<br />
[[Delta]] (10jan),<br />
[[T-Rep]] (15jan),<br />
Mini-mendel (09feb),<br />
[[Mendel_Variations/Catalyst]] (21feb),<br />
[[Contraptor]] (22feb),<br />
[[WolfStrap]] (3mar),<br />
[[Isaac]] (27march),<br />
Cupcakestrap [[cupcake]] (01apr),<br />
[[MultiRep]] (08apr),<br />
[[LaserCut_Mendel]] (10apr),<br />
[[Bonsai_RepStrap]] (14apr),<br />
[http://wiki.shapercube.com Shapercube] (apr),<br />
[http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:8609 Le Big Rep] (18may),<br />
Bfb3000 (24may),<br />
[[Foton_3Dprinter]] (19jun),<br />
[http://pp3dp.com/ Up!3dprinter] (21jun),<br />
[[Francisco]] (05jul),<br />
[[Columbus]] (04aug),<br />
[[Prusa]] (20aug),<br />
[[MetalicaRap]] (26aug),<br />
[[Huxley]] (30aug),<br />
[[TRap]] (02sep),<br />
[[Big_Mendel]] (05sep),<br />
[[Huxley_Seedling]] (10sep),<br />
Makerbot [http://store.makerbot.com/makerbot-thing-o-matic.html Thing-O-Matic] (25sep),<br />
[[Mantis_9.1]] (15oct),<br />
[[Kludgebot]] (22oct),<br />
[[Helium_Frog_Delta_Robot]] (26oct),<br />
[[FabPod]] (08nov),<br />
[[Doboz]] (10nov),<br />
[[Integrated_Parametric_RepRap]] (26nov),<br />
[[Ultimaker]] (29nov),<br />
[http://www.makergear.com/products/3d-printers Makergear Prusa] (nov-dec),<br />
[http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4986 Rusty-Huxley] (or Prusa-Huxley) (01dec),<br />
[[Gunstrap]] (12dec),<br />
[[TechZoneHuxley]] (25dec),<br />
[[Malthus]] (26dec),<br />
[[Rap@Home]] (29dec),<br />
<br />
'''2011'''<br />
Shapercube 2.0 (?)<br />
[[EMAKER_Huxley]] (17jan),<br />
[[Mixtape_mendel]] (31jan),<br />
Mendel Lego (?),<br />
Yazzo [[PolyBot]] Cranberry (01feb),<br />
[[A5_Powder_bed_printer]] (15feb),<br />
[[Clonedel]] (15feb),<br />
[http://www.mendel-parts.com/downloads/stl/Mendel_v2/ Mendel v2 camiel's redesign] (feb),<br />
Reprap [[1X2]] (22feb),<br />
[[Sumpod_3D]] (07mar)<br />
[[IKBot]] (09mar),<br />
[[AdderFab]] (15mar),<br />
[http://www.flickr.com/photos/23609505@N08/5752789480/in/photostream/ Huxley MD] (19mar),<br />
[[1X2_Tallcat]] (28mar),<br />
Yazzo Polybot [http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:7554 derivative] (03apr),<br />
[[MiniMaker]] (08apr),<br />
[http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:7698 Type A Printer MK1] (10apr),<br />
[[Orca]] (21apr),<br />
[[1X2_Shortcat]] (30apr),<br />
[[Betzbot]] (06may),<br />
[[Gen_X]] (20may),<br />
[[RobunDel]] (22may),<br />
[[Kinirap]] (23may),<br />
[http://blog.3dsystems.com/2011/05/new-bits-from-bytes-3d-printer.html Bfb3000 Plus] (24may),<br />
[http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:8361 SUPER! Cupcake] (24may),<br />
[[TechZone_InfoHub#TZ_Mondo]] (26may),<br />
[[Test_Tube_Mendel]] (02jun),<br />
[http://blog.reprap.org/2011/06/getting-rid-of-mendels-nuts.html Vik's mendel] (03jun),<br />
[http://www.makergear.com/blogs/frontpage/3323752-the-makergear-mosaic-3d-printer Makergear Mosaic] (04jun)<br />
[[Snapdragon]] (05jun),<br />
[[Adrians_Prusa_Notes]] (11jun),<br />
[http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:9317 Yazzo Polybot Raspberry] (14jun),<br />
[[K'nexStrap]] (16jun),<br />
[[Bigfoot]] (27jun),<br />
[[Mini_prusa]] (27jun),<br />
[http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:9942 Repstrap Jibaro] (09jul),<br />
[http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:10029 Cube Vector] (12jul),<br />
[http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:9423 Super! Cupcake mk3] (12jul),<br />
[[SugarSnap]] (20jul),<br />
[[Huxley-eg]] (17jul),<br />
[http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:10343 Deadalus 3D] (25jul),<br />
[http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:10383 Cube] (27jul),<br />
Kliment's Prusa12 (12mm rod Big Prusa) (04aug),<br />
[[Open_Hybrid_Mendel|Open Hybrid Mendel (Ohm)]] 23aug,<br />
[http://forums.reprap.org/read.php?1,94221 Yarr] (aug?),<br />
[http://grrf.de/2011/09/01/protos-v1-0-3d-printer-trailer/ GRRF Protos] (03sept),<br />
<br />
===Next revision : 3.2===<br />
Post-it for future modifications.<br />
<br />
Machine(+link)/date/status<br />
<br />
*[http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:6700 Tilt printer] feb/experimental<br />
*[[Kiwi-M5_Mendel_Battle_Tank]] jan/working<br />
*[[IceBot]] mar/concept<br />
*[[Action68%27s_vertical_x_axis_reprap]] 6jul/concept<br />
*[http://forums.reprap.org/read.php?1,95108,95680#msg-95680 Nophead's design] (before)aug/concept<br />
*[[Printrbot]] 04sep/working<br />
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjZghBCSg_0 Orca v0.30] sep/working<br />
*Fablicator (?/commercial)<br />
*Solidoodle (?/commercial?)<br />
<br />
<br />
*add the page url<br />
*rename the "skb kiparis" by "Gen-X"<br />
*move Open Hybrid Mendel closer to Hybird branch (mixtape and all)<br />
<br />
== Files ==<br />
{|class="wikitable" style="margin: 1em auto 1em auto;"<br />
|- style="background-color:#999999;" <br />
! FILE ID#<br />
! TYPE<br />
! DESCRIPTION<br />
! AVAILABLE FORMATS<br />
! CREATED/BY<br />
|-<br />
| v3<br />
| SVG<br />
| vector version<br />
| [[media:RFT_timeline2006-2012.svg|.svg (save as)]]<br />
| [[User:Emmanuel|--Emmanuel]]<br />
|-<br />
| v3<br />
| PDF<br />
| Printable vector version<br />
| [[media:RFT_timeline2006-2012.pdf|.pdf (save as)]]<br />
| [[User:Emmanuel|--Emmanuel]]<br />
|-<br />
| v3<br />
| PNG<br />
| web/screen resolution<br />
| [[media:RFT_timeline2006-2012.png|.png (save as)]]<br />
| [[User:Emmanuel|--Emmanuel]]<br />
|-<br />
|<br />
|<br />
| Thingiverse mirror<br />
| [http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:9088 thing:9088]<br />
| [[User:Emmanuel|--Emmanuel]]<br />
|-<br />
| v3<br />
| AI CS4<br />
| Source file<br />
| [http://www.thingiverse.com/download:37233 .ai (save as)]<br />
| [[User:Emmanuel|--Emmanuel]]<br />
|-<br />
|}<br />
Download and print-it-yourself.<br />
Or buy a poster at [http://www.zazzle.com/watsdesign/gifts?cg=196714686567963605 Zazzle] if you prefer (I ordered one to see and the [http://www.flickr.com/photos/watsdesign/5912686247/ quality] is good).<br />
For more details about the formats see the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_216 ISO_216].<br />
<br />
If you want to support me, you can also use [https://flattr.com/thing/301867/RepRap-Family-Tree flattr]<br />
<br />
<br />
The picture of the Prusa was made with the sketchup model found [https://github.com/garyhodgson/prusa_mendel_visual_instructions here]<br />
<br />
'''Other version'''<br />
<br />
[[media:RFT_timeline2006-2012_extended.png|v2.13x]], [[media:RFT_timeline2006-2012_extended_print.jpg|print version]]<br />
<br />
[[media:RFT_timeline2006-2012.png|v2.9]], [[media:RFT_timeline2006-2012_print.jpg|print version]]<br />
<br />
[[media:RFT_timeline2006-2012_extended_L.png|v3xL (wip)]] same as v2x but in a landscape format to give more room for the futur icons<br />
<br />
[[media:RFT_timeline2006-2012_extended_P.png|v2.5 extended portrait]]<br />
<br />
[[media:RFT_timeline2006-2012_P.png|v2.2P]]<br />
<br />
'''Reprap Family Tree v0.7'''<br />
<br />
You can see/edit the first diagram at https://cacoo.com/diagrams/wKA1saahe1vsKQjW (just take care of course)<br />
It was useful to start the organization.<br />
<br />
'''To Do ?'''<br />
Add a comparison table of the different machines (for some spec) as a legend (maybe that's another project).<br />
[https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Alcc-Ko5QEEMdGdkTXY1TU5yS3lWTHZjUXlMSUxhWWc&hl=en RepRap - Tableau comparatif], just for the link, we need to refine that.<br />
<br />
From an old mail found about a classification of each machines of every user, we may keep this terminology to add in the comparison table<br />
*number of heads (1, 2, 3)<br />
*axes topology head: XZ or XY or XYZ or "other"<br />
*axes topology table: Z or X or Y or XY or "other"<br />
<br />
== Related Links ==<br />
<br />
[[RepRap_history]]<br />
<br />
[[BackgroundPage]] (Wealth Without Money/Darwinian Marxism)<br />
<br />
[http://www.3dreplicators.com/cgi-bin/cblog/index.php?/archives/499-After-Darwin-Should-Mendel-be-a-specific-3D-printer-or-a-technology-toolbox.html After Darwin Should Mendel be a specific 3D printer or a technology toolbox] (16-01-2009)<br />
<br />
An interesting post by Forrest Higgs, when looking at the evolution model of the reprap.<br />
<br />
:Basically, Reprap has two models of evolution going on in parallel.<br />
:In the core team, we see what I will call a punctuated animal model of evolution while the larger reprap community is a very vibrant bacterial model.<br />
<br />
[[Combinatorics_Problem#bacteria-style_evolution]]</div>Dfk20012002https://reprap.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Printing_Material_Suppliers&diff=42768Printing Material Suppliers2011-10-04T04:40:12Z<p>Dfk20012002: Minor price update</p>
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<div>=Filament=<br />
<br />
Below is a table listing suppliers of filament. Costs are only approximate and are likely to change. Always check before ordering, and if you can, update this page. If there are any missing fields in the table, please feel free to update. For the quality of different suppliers, see [[Filament supplier reviews]]<br />
<br />
==3mm diameter filament==<br />
''Please keep the tables in alphabetical order.''<br />
<br />
{| class="wikitable sortable"<br />
|+ ''3mm dia filament''<br />
|- style="background-color:#f0f0f0;"<br />
! Vendor (with link) !! Shipping location !! Material(s) !! Approximate costs !! Additional notes<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.2printbeta.de 2PrintBeta] || From Germany || [[PLA]] || €32-46/kg (in 100 m and 300m roll) || many colors, glow-in-the-dark, soft PLA and mixed sets are available<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.3dprinterstuff.com/shop/page/4?shop_param= 3D Printer Stuff] || From USA || [[ABS]] || Starting at $14.55 USD/lb.<br/>Available in 1, 2, and 5 lb spools. || Red, orange, yellow, green, olive, sky blue, navy blue, purple, rust, white, natural, black.<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.bitsfrombytes.com/catalog/materials BitsFromBytes] || From UK || [[ABS]], [[HDPE]], [[LDPE]], [[PLA]], [[PP]], [[uPVC]] || Varies but usually £40-47 in 1kg or 2kg rolls depending on material || None<br />
|-<br />
| [http://croxwordz.blogspot.com Croxword] || From Taiwan || [[ABS]] || $50/ per box with 3kg ($14 Shipping)|| White/Black/Blue/Yellow<br />
|-<br />
| [http://botmill.com/index.php/materials.html BotMill] || From USA || [[ABS]], [[PLA]] || $10-12/lb, min 1lb order. || Worldwide shipping - Free sheeping in USA<br>Large variety of low-cost colored ABS and PLA<br>Terra Cotta, Orange, Light Blue, Olive Drab, Dark Grey<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.buy3dink.com/ Buy 3D Ink] || From USA || [[PLA]], [[ABS]], [[HDPE]] || $8.99 per lb PLA (5+ lb rolls)<br /> $8.99 per lb ABS (5+ lb rolls)<br /> $5.99 per lb HDPE (5+ lb rolls) || $10.50 S&H in the USA <del>They offer a sample pack of ABS and PLA for $10 (About 9oz-12oz)</del><br />
|-<br />
| [http://diamondage.co.nz/pla.html Diamond Age Solutions Ltd.] || From NZ || [[PLA]], [[ABS]] ||PLA: NZ$33 per 100 meter (0.9kg) roll<br>ABS : NZ$50<br>to NZ: $10.00 shipping + GST<br>to Europe/US: approx NZ$20 shipping per roll, less to Australia. Spools avail. || Various colours, metallic fx & luminous + parts. 11th roll is free<br/>Contact vik [at] diamondage.co.nz<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.faberdashery.co.uk/products-page/ Faberdashery Ltd.] || From UK || [[PLA]] || Sold by the meter - From £0.39/m<br /> Approx. £39/kg || An emporium of coloured PLA, sold by the meter or in 100m coils<br /> Pack with 10m of 10 colors also available (£35)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://fabricationsofthemind.com/shop/abs/ Fabrications Of TheMind] || From UK || [[ABS]] || £19.95/kg for 1kg<br /> £15.98/kg for 2kg (£31.95)<br /> £12.99/kg for 5kg (£64.95) || None<br />
|-<br />
| [https://shop.grrf.de/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=82_83 German RepRap Foundation] || From Germany || [[ABS]] [[PLA]] || ABS: 50€ for 2,2kg<br>PLA: €55-75/kg<br>on spools for a better unrolling|| Worldwide shipping. Also have soft PLA<br />
|-<br />
| [http://lybina.com/ Lybina Pty Ltd] || From Australia || [[ABS]], [[PLA]], [[HDPE]], [[PP]], [[PVC]] || 50 Mtr ABS/HDPE/PP/PVC<br>Coil and Bagged from $16.15 + GST + Transport || Contact Though Website [http://lybina.com/contact-us.html Lybina Contact Us Page]<br/>Credit Card Facilities Available<br />
|-<br />
| [http://store.makerbot.com/plastic.html Makerbot] || From USA || [[ABS]], [[PLA]], [[PVA]] || ABS $43-55/kg <br>PLA $43/kg<br>PVA $32/lb || None<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.makergear.com/products/filament MakerGear] || From USA || [[ABS]], [[PLA]]|| $15-25/lb || None<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.mendel-parts.com/index.php/catalog/pla-filament/3mm-filament.html Mendel-Parts.com] || From Netherlands || [[PLA]]<br>& soon [[ABS]] || PLA €20-26/kg || 6 colors <br> Worldwide shipping with UPS - 3days max<br />
|-<br />
| [http://mixshop.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=23 Mixshop] || From Canada || [[PLA]] || $30-32/kg || Black, Blue, Red<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.newimageplastic.com New Image Plastics] <br> [http://www.plasticweldingrod.com/ Plastic welding rod] <br> [http://www.3dprinterfilament.com/ 3D Printer Filament] || From US || [[ABS]], [[PVC]], [[HDPE]], [[PLA]] || ABS $8 per lb, min 10lb order || Phone 330-854-3010 <br> Call Donna at +1 (330) 854-3010 and tell them Forrest or Reprap sent you. <br> Delivery on small orders tends to take several weeks. <br> 8/29/11: Donna sent a response to query saying that they do not stock PLA but can extrude PLA supplied by a customer. Apparently, they do not sell PLA.<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.paoparts.com Paoparts] || From France|| [[PLA]] || €28/kg (in 2,5kg roll) || many colors<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.plastireal.com.br Plastireal] || From Brazil || [[PVC]] [[HDPE]] [[PP]] || R$20/kg || São Paulo store<br />
|-<br />
| [http://reprapcentral.com RepRapCentral.com] || From UK || [[ABS]], [[PLA]] || £30-36/kg 5lb spool<br> £30-66/kg 1lb coil || Translucent Green, Translucent Blue, Orange, Purple, Yellow, Red, Bright Blue and a striking lime green<br>All with Free UK Shipping, Worldwide shipping now available.<br />
|-<br />
| [http://reprapsource.com/en/shop/list/198 RepRapSource] || From Germany || [[ABS]], [[PLA]] || ABS €22-26/kg <br> PLA €34/kg for a 5lb roll || Different colours available<br />
|-<br />
|[http://reprapworld.com/?searchresults&cPath=1590 RepRapWorld] || From Netherlands || [[ABS]] [[PLA]] || €20/kg (9.98 for a 500g coil)|| PLA (Blue, Red, Black, Yellow) ABS (Black, White)<br />
|-<br />
| [http://supply3dpla.com Supply3DPLA.com] || From Sweden || [[PLA]] || €23/kg 5Kg spool<br>€28.75/kg 400gr coil || Black, Natural ( White), Red and Translucent Blue<br />
|-<br />
| [http://ultimachine.com/catalog/print-materials UltiMachine] || From US || [[ABS]] [[PLA]] || $12-15/lb (sold in 1 and 5lb lots)|| None<br />
|-<br />
| [https://shop.ultimaker.com/en/consumables.html Ultimaker Shop] || From Netherlands (EU) || [[PLA]], [[ABS]], flexPLA || PLA: €28-36/kg (in 750g and 2.5 kg reels <br> €38-41/kg 750g reel || We offer many different colors of high quality filament. All offered material are tested extensively.<br />
|-<br />
| [https://kd85.com/makerbot.html Wim-kd85.com] || From Belgium (EU) || [[ABS]], [[PLA]] || €30-34/kg for 2-5lb rolls (€40-75) depending on the material || None<br />
|}<br />
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==1.75mm diameter filament==<br />
{| class="wikitable sortable"<br />
|+ ''1.75mm dia filament''<br />
|- style="background-color:#f0f0f0;"<br />
! Vendor (with link) !! Shipping location !! Material(s) !! Approximate costs !! Additional notes<br />
<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.3dprinterstuff.com/shop/page/6?shop_param= 3D Printer Stuff] || From USA || [[ABS]] || Starting at $16.55 USD/lb.<br/>Available in 1, 2, and 5 lb spools. || Red, orange, yellow, green, olive, sky blue, navy blue, purple, rust, white, natural, black.<br />
|-<br />
| [http://croxwordz.blogspot.com Croxword] || From Taiwan || [[ABS]] || $50/ per box with 2kg (USD 12 Shipping)|| White/Black/Blue/Yellow<br />
|-<br />
| [http://diamondage.co.nz/pla.html Diamond Age Solutions Ltd.] || From NZ || [[PLA]], [[ABS]] ||PLA : NZ$30 per 100 meter (0.22kg) roll<br />ABS : NZ$45<br /> approx NZ$10 shipping per roll to Europe/US. Spools avail. || Various colours, metallic fx & luminous. Also sells parts.<br /> Contact vik [at] diamondage.co.nz<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.faberdashery.co.uk/products-page/ Faberdashery Ltd.] || From UK || [[PLA]] || Sold by the meter - From £0.29/m<br /> £72.50/kg (~125m) || An emporium of coloured PLA, sold by the meter or in 100m coils<br /> Pack with 10m of 10 colors also available (£26)<br />
|-<br />
| [https://shop.grrf.de/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=82_83 German RepRap Foundation] || From Germany || [[ABS]] [[PLA]] || ABS: €34/kg<br>PLA: €35-40<br>on spools for a better unrolling|| Worldwide shipping. Soft PLA<br />
|-<br />
| [http://store.makerbot.com/plastic.html Makerbot] || From US || [[ABS]], [[PLA]] || ABS $43-55/kg <br>PLA $43/kg|| None<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.makergear.com/products/filament MakerGear] || From US || [[ABS]] || $17.50/lb (sold in 1lb rolls)|| Red, Blue, Green, Black, White, Orange, Pink & Purple<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.mendel-parts.com/index.php/catalog/pla-filament/1-75mm-filament.html Mendel-Parts.com] || From EU || [[PLA]] <br>& soon [[ABS]] || €20-24/kg || 6 colors<br/>Worldwide shipping with UPS - 3days max<br />
|-<br />
| [http://mixshop.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=23 Mixshop] || From Canada || [[PLA]] || $30-35/kg || Black, Blue, White<br />
|-<br />
| [http://ultimachine.com/catalog/print-materials UltiMachine] || From US || [[ABS]] [[PLA]] || $14-19/lb (sold in 1 and 5lb lots)|| None<br />
|-<br />
| [http://reprapsource.com/en/shop/list/220 Reprapsource] || From Germany || [PLA]] || €40/kg || Natural<br />
|-<br />
| [http://www.pp3dp.com/index.php?page=shop.browse&category_id=3&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=37&vmcchk=1&Itemid=37 PP3DP] || From China || [[ABS]] || $22.68/lb (sold as 2x700g=3.1lb rolls + USD 12 Shipping)|| White<br />
|}<br />
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[[Category:Suppliers]]<br />
[[category:thermoplastic]]<br />
[[category: material]]</div>Dfk20012002https://reprap.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=User:Dfk20012002&diff=39823User:Dfk200120022011-08-15T19:31:24Z<p>Dfk20012002: </p>
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<div>Reprap kits sold from Southern Alberta, Available Winter 2011.<br />
<br />
(hopefully by Dec 2011)<br />
I will have kits, parts, and complete repraps for sale as soon as I am finished developing my current reprap.<br />
But since it is a pain getting parts here in Alberta(as I had to import almost all my stuff)once I get up and running,<br />
I am willing to cut a price break to anyone who lives in Alberta. But that requires me getting this done quick.<br />
<br />
If you do live in alberta or want to be contacted when this stuff goes down <br />
(cause I will only have enough for about 40kits to start)<br />
<br />
Contact me at:dafoxco@gmail.com<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
But in the mean time, Here is info about me, my goals, status<br />
<br />
== Profile ==<br />
(Yes I know, Not everyone likes to be Profiled, but it does help the police find people.)<br />
*'''Name:''' David<br />
*'''Age:''' 24<br />
*'''Country:''' Canada<br />
*'''Province:''' Alberta<br />
*'''City:''' Lethbridge (As if you couldn't get that from my University)<br />
*'''Schooling:''' Currently attending the University of Lethbridge.<br />
*'''Field of Study:''' Combined Computer Science and Business Management w/ Minor in Information Systems.<br />
:::(sounds busy doesn't it?)<br />
*'''Likes:''' almost all Food, Computers, Robotics, Woodworking, Challenges I can learn from, Girls (Of Course).<br />
*'''Dislikes:''' People who willingly cease to use their brains for thought, or anything useful for that matter.<br />
:::Note:''Please donate unused brains to your nearest starving Zombie''<br />
*'''Future Aspirations:''' To start my own technology development company/school. (aka to be a modern day inventor, that actually gets paid)<br />
<br />
<br />
== My Goals: ==<br />
*To build a RepStrap/CNC platform that has quickly Interchangeable/Multiple Tool-heads.<br />
*To contribute to the RepRap community, via wiki, and hopefully The sale of RepRaps kits/parts to help this community grow.<br />
*Learn More than what I already know.<br />
*To help in the development of a basic sewing machine / Embroidery attachment for the RepRap.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
== Current Status: ==<br />
'''Acquiring Parts / Starting to Assemble''' <br />
:Here is what I have so far:<br />
*'''Motors:''' <br />
:100 Sanyo Denki, Nema 17, Bi-Polar 6 wire stepper motors, Type: 102H5208-10U41 , 59oz-in holding torque.<br />
::with a 21 tooth MXL 1/4" wide pulley on each. Cost: ''PRICELESS steal!''<br />
::cost me $114 bucks for the whole lot. But, shipping and import fees where $165 so it came to $278<br />
::but $278/100 = $2.78 for each motor with shipping... hmmmm. these motors sell at $15-40 on ebay... ($60 new)<br />
::However, getting the data sheet for theses was a royal pain, even at that I still need to update it.<br />
:60 T&L International Stepping motor, Bi-Polar 6 wire stepping motor, Type: 42BYG401-06A, apx 31+oz-in holding torque<br />
::with a 28 tooth mxl 1/4 brass pulley on each. Cost: '''Almost''' a Priceless steal.<br />
::little bit more pricey about $300 with import fees<br />
::$300 / 60 = $5 each with shipping, but they still have a gear head and it is the same sad story on ebay $15-40<br />
::Now data on these was even harder to find but I have some and am going to make a cad scehmatic soon<br />
*'''The Brain (aka BRAINS! or motherboard for the non-Zombie fans):''' <br />
:I purchase a [http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/seeeduino-mega-p-717.html?cPath=132_133&zenid=61ee232a52bb9c8bc4c8ce011a544b3e "Seeedduino mega"] when it was on sale<br />
::I think it is are great so I am planning on using it(even if it is overkill). <br />
*'''Motor Drivers:''' <br />
:I bought components for [http://www.schmalzhaus.com/EasyDriver/ "EasyDrivers"] <br />
::They will provide 750mAmps at 30v per phase<br />
::you can buy them from Sparkfun.com but I wanted to make my own)<br />
*'''Structure (aka Frame):''' <br />
:8 Hardened steel rods I salvaged from a bunch of old printers for the slides (free - 2hrs salvage)<br />
:6 3ft 5/16 galvanized Threaded rods ($3 each, got them on sale at princess auto)<br />
:apx 20+ nuts ( DANG expensive at home depot, or home hardware at +$0.26 each, buy them at totem for $0.12 instead)<br />
:100+ 1/4 USS washers (+$0.12 each, so I bought a box of a hundred at $0.05 each instead.)<br />
:::USS type are NOT CONSISTENT IN THICKNESS(0.51" - 0.90"), they need presorting so they are 0.01" of eachother<br />
*'''Corners (aka the pieces that make those annoying angles):''' <br />
:I am cutting the intial ones out of 3/4 MDF which I will seal using wood hardener or glue-water mix.<br />
<br /><br />
So in essence My first reprap will actually be a repstrap/ wolfstrap since it uses wood, but hey it is cheaper than trying to buy the plastic parts since anyone I can find wants to charge a (explicit descriptive here) for them.<br />
<br /> <br /><br />
(The only reason this is not on a development page yet, is because I am still getting parts, taking pictures, procrastinating, assembling stuff, making excuses, writing essays)(OK, it is really cause I havent got to it yet, but I will as soon as summer semester is over (around Aug 16th)) <br />
Yay! --[[User:Sebastien Bailard|Sebastien Bailard]] 07:05, 11 April 2011 (UTC)</div>Dfk20012002https://reprap.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Talk:Orca_v020&diff=39664Talk:Orca v0202011-08-13T18:46:26Z<p>Dfk20012002: /* Assuming New => Improved continued*/</p>
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<div>New Users, please beware that "Orca" is:<br><br />
=Re: it's "Experimental status:= <br />
* experimental - it's only been produced at Mendel-Parts ( a commercial outfit), and has not been indepenantly verified as to its capabilities, quality, repeatability, etc.<br />
--Buzz ( Core Reprap team member, and Wiki Admin ).<br />
* not experimental anymore - its been produced on alot of locations already *also outside Mendel-Parts*.<br />
10+ users (most indepently from Mendel-Parts.com ) have verified its capabilities, quality, repeatibility.<br />
And they were very happy and very impressed, they like Orca much, much more then Mendels, building/working/printing with it etc.<br />
For that reason we yesterday decided to remove the experimental note, however some reprap users dont agree <br />
and put the above message on this page today, simply put: <br />
I hate politics, but if you change this page, make sure you know what you are talking about!<br />
--Camiel<br />
<br />
:Buzz, Camiel, I've changed the scare text at the top of [[Orca]] a bit. I've left the issue that<br />
:we as a wider community (7B minus 10 people) don't know much about it, yet, and that it needs <br />
:further evaluation and isn't considered 'perfect' yet. <br />
:<br />
:I've changed the pejorative "it's an ideologically impure RepStrap" to<br />
:a more neutral "it has laser cut parts along with 3d printed ones". Interested<br />
:folk can read the follow up on this page to decide for themselves if this is good or bad.<br />
:<br />
:I deleted the "only one entrepreneur currently selling them"; since we're not using that<br />
:text to warn new folk about the other RepStraps and electronics which are single-supplier.<br />
:Interested folk can quickly get a sense of Camiel's positive reputation using forum/irc.<br />
:<br />
:The new text is wordier than the old; it is tricky to convey nuance and context regarding <br />
:"this machine is somewhat untested but appears to be [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAjR4_CbPpQ Harder Better Faster Stronger]."<br />
:--[[User:Sebastien Bailard|Sebastien Bailard]] 08:17, 28 July 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
=(I like it)=<br />
::I justly choose the Orca to test it during the "Bootcamp FabLab/Reprap Build Party" that happened in Barcelona recently (where Camiel brought the machines himself)<br />
::We had two weeks to build 3 Orca (while I teach them how to use a reprap) and print as much things as we can.<br />
::If pictures are worth many words look at what we've done : [http://www.flickr.com/photos/watsdesign/sets/72157627170609560/ Bootcamp FabLab Barcelona] (the 6 students never heard of the reprap before this workshop ^^)<br />
::I plan to write a detailed reviewed of this machine (and the questions raised here) and post a link, but in short: it have many interesting points and some that we can improve, but I think it's good (and I say that with the experience of building a Sells Mendel and a Prusa).<br />
::Also, thanks Sebastien, I feel more comfortable with this more neutral edition<br />
::--[[User:Emmanuel|Emmanuel]] 17:44, 28 July 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
=Re: whether it';s a "true reprap" or not: =<br />
* not entirely a Reprap ( ie it is not self-replicating ) as it currently requires approximately 20+ laser-cut parts in order to be assembled, and we can not yet print laser-cutters. Mendel and Darwin did not "require" a laser-cutter. I've personally made two Mendels, and never was a laser-cutter used at all. :-( <br />
--Buzz ( Core Reprap team member, and Wiki Admin ).<br />
(Standard) Mendels also needs lasercut parts, (if you need 5, you also need a lasercuter.. and we cannot print those).<br><br />
But I dont have time to play this game, some people work for a better world, some people just like to complain..<br />
--Camiel.<br />
* Alt. to using a lasercutter as main manufacturing method of mentioned parts. <br />
Could be to use electroetching ([http://reprap.org/wiki/Metal_Etching_Scriber wiki]/[http://forums.reprap.org/read.php?1,90990 forum-thread]/[http://www.aardvark.co.nz/pjet/makevalves1.pdf .pdf]/[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEnNMTMZadw video]) ?<br />
I guess a sufficiently advanced reprap-entity and/or relation between biological/technological entities could utilize some fluids, sweat and tears from the first and "a bit" of electricity from the latter to make some offspring. Hm.. I guess that could be interpreted wrongly.<br />
--danielpublic<br />
* Buzz, do you really want to claim that any machine that uses a laser cutter to make some of its parts is not a RepRap? By that standard a Mendel is not a RepRap (most instances use several laser cut boards). The about page contains the following definition: ''RepRap - n. any free rapid prototyping machine that can manufacture a significant fraction of its own parts...'' It says nothing about not requiring a laser cutter. The Orca is certainly capable of manufacturing a significant fraction of its own parts and thus qualifies as a RepRap (assuming it is freely producible by others).<br />
--madscifi<br />
* to madscifi, I'm just trying to make people aware of the fact that if they choose this machine, then they are choosing a machine that is *less self-replicating* than the current state-of-the-art Prussa/Sells style machines. For some people this is not important at all, for some others, it's incredibly important. We have no way to know in-advance who falls into which category, so the best approach is to make sure that everyone is properly informed before they made their decision, and then they have no one to blame but themselves. <br />
I personally like to think that you should need nothing more than common hand-tools to make a reprap, so it becomes much more accessable to a much larger audience of users. Although I don't claim that any machine that uses a laser cutter to make some of its parts is not a RepRap it is true that making it compulsory makes these machine/s les-replicable, less repeatable, less accessable, etc.<br />
The standard Mendel is totally a RepRap, because it does not need laser cut parts ( they are 100 optional, being easily cut-out with a hand saw instead). Other derivatives, like a [[LaserCut_Mendel]] are not strictly "reprap", they are "repstrap", because they are made mostly of laser-cut parts, and can not themselves cut wih a laser ( that would be cool if they could though). <br />
--Buzz<br />
<br />
=Re: whether the design is in need of change=<br />
The Core reprap team hope that both the above issues will be resolved soon, and are pleased to see another RepRap variation taking shape, but it's early-days for this new design, and if you want a tried-and-tested model, we currently recommend either a "Prusa Mendel" or a "Classic/Sells Mendel", not this one. Please also note that there is currently only one supplier of parts for this model, and they are a commercial outfit. ( That may suit you, as support should be better, or it may concern you, as it potentially means increased vendor lock-in).<br><br />
--Buzz ( Core Reprap team member, and Wiki Admin ).<br />
We @ mendel-parts.com recommend Orca over the standard Mendel, because its so much easier to build, to work on / better manual etc.. <br />
in short: people are much more happy with an Orca, it prints better and is faster to setup (user comments, not my comment).<br />
--Camiel.<br />
<br />
:I'm not sure how vendor lock-in is a concern. The machine is open source. <br />
:Regarding the lasercut aspect. Many folk in developed countries have a local <br />
:lasercutting job shop. And they've got access to ebay and reprap's marketplace.<br />
:If [[Orca]] takes off, it's a moment's work to add a lasercut parts marketplace subforum to our forum, <br />
:and a orca lasercut parts suppliers wiki page.<br />
:<br />
:Orca may indeed work well for hackerspaces that have a lasercutter handy or who put in a bulk order with <br />
:a local job shop / the internet.<br />
:--[[User:Sebastien Bailard|Sebastien Bailard]] 08:32, 28 July 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
=Re: whether this is a problem or not=<br />
In General most (normal) users dont care about building a 3D printer, that is not their goal, they want to print 3D. <br><br />
--Camiel.<br />
<br />
Camiel, you statement depends entirely on who *you* consider "normal". I personally think there is no "normal", and would not like to impose restrictions on people without at least making them aware of the choices they are making. Eg: If a user wants a non-replicating printer, then that's OK, but it's not a 'RepRap', it's a 'RepStrap'. In this particular case, your 'Orca' 3D printer is clearly moving toward the latter category( ie RepStrap), by your own admission... and that *will* be a concern for some people, so it's best that they be informed about it up-front. <br />
--Buzz. ( Core Reprap team member, and Wiki Admin ).<br />
<br />
I think Camiel is right, even if this might be a somewhat disappointing aspect of a developer community. Regarding the design, I consider the Orca to be a step back in terms of replicatability compared to a Prusa, but a step forward compared to an industry-only design like Gen6 electronics. At least we have a _chance_ to improve the Orca to be as printable as current state-of-the-art designs.<br />
--[[User:Traumflug|Traumflug]] 07:48, 13 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
:Yeah, I find it difficult to agree with Buzz on this.<br />
<br />
:Camiel is using a laser cutter to get a larger number of machines out the door faster and at lower cost than he could do printing and selling vanilla Prusa Mendels. (Otherwise he wouldn't be doing it.) As added benefit, this may help him get more electronics out the door at a lower cost.<br />
<br />
:So ... if Camiel were to switch to Prusa Mendels, selling fewer machines at a higher cost, would this be a desirable outcome for the community? It would simplify things, but I don't think it would help folk out. <br />
<br />
:And there's knock-on effects: The lower traffic to his webstore might mean he'd have to up his price on gen n+1 electronics, which wouldn't make reprap better.<br />
<br />
:New folk coming to this page need to know one thing: whether or not this is a good machine; that is to say, a machine that will work and work well. <br />
<br />
:We can explain how nice pure-form machines are vis a vis [[:Category:RepStrap|ideologically impure machines]] elsewhere. Unless we want to do it at the top of Orca wiki page, and have a lovely chat about philosophy/economics there which just might distract people from buying a nice new machine.<br />
:--[[User:Sebastien Bailard|Sebastien Bailard]] 09:11, 13 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
::''So ... if Camiel were to switch to Prusa Mendels, selling fewer machines at a higher cost, would this be a desirable outcome for the community?''<br />
<br />
::No and yes. No, because at the first iteration we would get fewer users. Yes, because people would see "ah, a RepRap is a machine which has to be bought". The later is what we don't want, because RepRap is about spreading machines by replication. People shall ask their friends to print them a machine instead of asking where to buy one. I think it's safe to assume this replication thing works well, because there are many more Mendels than any commercial design (MakerBot, PP3D, ShaperCube, ...).<br />
::--[[User:Traumflug|Traumflug]] 13:25, 13 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
<br />
<br><br />
Something else I want to explain for once: running a production line of 6 or more printers is something else then having 1 or 2 printers.<br><br />
We run in completely different problems, we find alot more issues etc. Printing 18h each day on 10 printers, or printing 18h a week on one printer is totally not comparable.<br><br />
<br><br />
<br />
== Dependence on the lasercut parts, different materials, milling? ==<br />
<br />
How is the design of orca made in respect to dependence on the big lasercut parts?<br />
<br />
The smaller alu pieces should be doable with a cnc router, which are quite common, (well at least I have a small one) but the larger pieces would have to be made on something bigger.<br />
<br />
But getting access to a high end laser cutter which can do aluminum isn't that easy either, so what about plywood or other materials? --[[User:ElectricMucus|ElectricMucus]] 20:08, 29 July 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Assuming New => Improved ==<br />
<br />
: "Since it is brand new, it is '''almost certainly''' an improvement on '''most''' previous machines."<br />
<br />
::This claim is sufficiently outrageous to distract me from figuring out whether the design is, in fact, an <br />
::improvement. <br />
::--[[User:Garthk|Garthk]]<br />
::I think you'd be better off pointing to a list of advantages and disadvantages.<br />
:::Hmmm ... I've pointed '''almost certainly''' at [[Orca#Benefits_of_this_Design]]. That may help.<br />
:::--[[User:Sebastien Bailard|Sebastien Bailard]] 05:15, 13 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
:::: This '''brand new = certainly improved''' seems like just another way of expressing that they think, they are doing something better than everyone else. <br />
::::Isn't this an open-sourced project where ideas & design progress? If yes then: newer ideas tend to have improvement, are often unique, <br />
::::offer viewpoints that are different, add to the knowledge base, benifit the whole community, and yes even provide opprotunities for profit.<br />
:::: However, as I have followed Ocra it has seemingly more and more statements like this one which, seem like a superiority marketing ploy instead of<br />
::::development.<br />
::::In a few months there will be other ideas and project that are Brand new and almost certainly better than ocra or any other reprap but we dont need<br />
::::that bragging here in the reprap community. <br />
::::From what I have observed the reprap project continues to move forward not just because it is a marketable (it wouldn't be opensource if Adrian wanted just money)<br />
::::But that it has a community, members that are imperfect but with great ideas, projects that everyone learns from (hence the whole wiki), different development<br />
::::directions / lines, people that love it, and a huge potential.<br />
::::<br />
::::While at the same time I digress, there have been those that wanted to do things differently and focus on business, and get irritated at the community for not <br />
::::thinking the same.(sound like makerbot anyone?) But hey having a business outlook is a great thing but thats where you get a machine that doesnt change every <br />
::::month and you charge $20,000+ <br />
::::<br />
::::As a post note though I love what you've done to make Ocra, but that doesn't instantly make you perfect... yet. (you can still work on that, we all can)<br />
::::----[[User:Dfk20012002|Dfk20012002]] 08:35, 13 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
::::: I'm the fellow I wrote wrote: "Since it is brand new, it is almost certainly an improvement on most previous machines." So ... be annoyed at me! :D<br />
:::::It was something of a nebulous statement, but Camiel probably regards it as an improvement over "Don't buy this, buy a Prusa; RepRaps are better than RepStraps". Can you imagine trying to deal with that as an entrepreneur with large sunk costs, and wanting to help the community and pay a mortgage? Especially if you believe in the machine you did up?<br />
:::::I'd have written up a more precise statement if I'd held an Orca in my hands, but that would cost either Camiel or me money, so ick.<br />
:::::--[[User:Sebastien Bailard|Sebastien Bailard]] 09:11, 13 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
::::::Ah, Indeed in that case I was some what in error, but your right that it does sound better than the "Don't buy this" statement.<br />
::::::As I look back on my discussion post it does seems a little strong (I typed it at 4am where I live), and assuming in that everything on that page comes from the makers of ocra.<br />
::::::whereas, a person can track every single change on the history page to see who said what so I should have looked a little more into it.<br />
::::::SO in that case, I'll say that I am sorry if it seems accusatory.<br />
::::::however, I think the point is still a vaild one, that reprap has only gotten this far '''because people do put alot of work into it''', when they could focus just on their own ones trying to make money. <br />
::::::And by far none of the designs are perfect... yet!<br />
::::::--[[User:Dfk20012002|Dfk20012002]] 18:46, 13 August 2011 (UTC)</div>Dfk20012002https://reprap.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Talk:Orca_v020&diff=39638Talk:Orca v0202011-08-13T08:35:54Z<p>Dfk20012002: minor sentance fix</p>
<hr />
<div>New Users, please beware that "Orca" is:<br><br />
=Re: it's "Experimental status:= <br />
* experimental - it's only been produced at Mendel-Parts ( a commercial outfit), and has not been indepenantly verified as to its capabilities, quality, repeatability, etc.<br />
--Buzz ( Core Reprap team member, and Wiki Admin ).<br />
* not experimental anymore - its been produced on alot of locations already *also outside Mendel-Parts*.<br />
10+ users (most indepently from Mendel-Parts.com ) have verified its capabilities, quality, repeatibility.<br />
And they were very happy and very impressed, they like Orca much, much more then Mendels, building/working/printing with it etc.<br />
For that reason we yesterday decided to remove the experimental note, however some reprap users dont agree <br />
and put the above message on this page today, simply put: <br />
I hate politics, but if you change this page, make sure you know what you are talking about!<br />
--Camiel<br />
<br />
:Buzz, Camiel, I've changed the scare text at the top of [[Orca]] a bit. I've left the issue that<br />
:we as a wider community (7B minus 10 people) don't know much about it, yet, and that it needs <br />
:further evaluation and isn't considered 'perfect' yet. <br />
:<br />
:I've changed the pejorative "it's an ideologically impure RepStrap" to<br />
:a more neutral "it has laser cut parts along with 3d printed ones". Interested<br />
:folk can read the follow up on this page to decide for themselves if this is good or bad.<br />
:<br />
:I deleted the "only one entrepreneur currently selling them"; since we're not using that<br />
:text to warn new folk about the other RepStraps and electronics which are single-supplier.<br />
:Interested folk can quickly get a sense of Camiel's positive reputation using forum/irc.<br />
:<br />
:The new text is wordier than the old; it is tricky to convey nuance and context regarding <br />
:"this machine is somewhat untested."<br />
:--[[User:Sebastien Bailard|Sebastien Bailard]] 08:17, 28 July 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
=(I like it)=<br />
::I justly choose the Orca to test it during the "Bootcamp FabLab/Reprap Build Party" that happened in Barcelona recently (where Camiel brought the machines himself)<br />
::We had two weeks to build 3 Orca (while I teach them how to use a reprap) and print as much things as we can.<br />
::If pictures are worth many words look at what we've done : [http://www.flickr.com/photos/watsdesign/sets/72157627170609560/ Bootcamp FabLab Barcelona] (the 6 students never heard of the reprap before this workshop ^^)<br />
::I plan to write a detailed reviewed of this machine (and the questions raised here) and post a link, but in short: it have many interesting points and some that we can improve, but I think it's good (and I say that with the experience of building a Sells Mendel and a Prusa).<br />
::Also, thanks Sebastien, I feel more comfortable with this more neutral edition<br />
::--[[User:Emmanuel|Emmanuel]] 17:44, 28 July 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
=Re: whether it';s a "true reprap" or not: =<br />
* not entirely a Reprap ( ie it is not self-replicating ) as it currently requires approximately 20+ laser-cut parts in order to be assembled, and we can not yet print laser-cutters. Mendel and Darwin did not "require" a laser-cutter. I've personally made two Mendels, and never was a laser-cutter used at all. :-( <br />
--Buzz ( Core Reprap team member, and Wiki Admin ).<br />
(Standard) Mendels also needs lasercut parts, (if you need 5, you also need a lasercuter.. and we cannot print those).<br><br />
But I dont have time to play this game, some people work for a better world, some people just like to complain..<br />
--Camiel.<br />
* Alt. to using a lasercutter as main manufacturing method of mentioned parts. <br />
Could be to use electroetching ([http://reprap.org/wiki/Metal_Etching_Scriber wiki]/[http://forums.reprap.org/read.php?1,90990 forum-thread]/[http://www.aardvark.co.nz/pjet/makevalves1.pdf .pdf]/[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEnNMTMZadw video]) ?<br />
I guess a sufficiently advanced reprap-entity and/or relation between biological/technological entities could utilize some fluids, sweat and tears from the first and "a bit" of electricity from the latter to make some offspring. Hm.. I guess that could be interpreted wrongly.<br />
--danielpublic<br />
* Buzz, do you really want to claim that any machine that uses a laser cutter to make some of its parts is not a RepRap? By that standard a Mendel is not a RepRap (most instances use several laser cut boards). The about page contains the following definition: ''RepRap - n. any free rapid prototyping machine that can manufacture a significant fraction of its own parts...'' It says nothing about not requiring a laser cutter. The Orca is certainly capable of manufacturing a significant fraction of its own parts and thus qualifies as a RepRap (assuming it is freely producible by others).<br />
--madscifi<br />
* to madscifi, I'm just trying to make people aware of the fact that if they choose this machine, then they are choosing a machine that is *less self-replicating* than the current state-of-the-art Prussa/Sells style machines. For some people this is not important at all, for some others, it's incredibly important. We have no way to know in-advance who falls into which category, so the best approach is to make sure that everyone is properly informed before they made their decision, and then they have no one to blame but themselves. <br />
I personally like to think that you should need nothing more than common hand-tools to make a reprap, so it becomes much more accessable to a much larger audience of users. Although I don't claim that any machine that uses a laser cutter to make some of its parts is not a RepRap it is true that making it compulsory makes these machine/s les-replicable, less repeatable, less accessable, etc.<br />
The standard Mendel is totally a RepRap, because it does not need laser cut parts ( they are 100 optional, being easily cut-out with a hand saw instead). Other derivatives, like a [[LaserCut_Mendel]] are not strictly "reprap", they are "repstrap", because they are made mostly of laser-cut parts, and can not themselves cut wih a laser ( that would be cool if they could though). <br />
--Buzz<br />
<br />
=Re: whether the design is in need of change=<br />
The Core reprap team hope that both the above issues will be resolved soon, and are pleased to see another RepRap variation taking shape, but it's early-days for this new design, and if you want a tried-and-tested model, we currently recommend either a "Prusa Mendel" or a "Classic/Sells Mendel", not this one. Please also note that there is currently only one supplier of parts for this model, and they are a commercial outfit. ( That may suit you, as support should be better, or it may concern you, as it potentially means increased vendor lock-in).<br><br />
--Buzz ( Core Reprap team member, and Wiki Admin ).<br />
We @ mendel-parts.com recommend Orca over the standard Mendel, because its so much easier to build, to work on / better manual etc.. <br />
in short: people are much more happy with an Orca, it prints better and is faster to setup (user comments, not my comment).<br />
--Camiel.<br />
<br />
:I'm not sure how vendor lock-in is a concern. The machine is open source. <br />
:Regarding the lasercut aspect. Many folk in developed countries have a local <br />
:lasercutting job shop. And they've got access to ebay and reprap's marketplace.<br />
:If [[Orca]] takes off, it's a moment's work to add a lasercut parts marketplace subforum to our forum, <br />
:and a orca lasercut parts suppliers wiki page.<br />
:<br />
:Orca may indeed work well for hackerspaces that have a lasercutter handy or who put in a bulk order with <br />
:a local job shop / the internet.<br />
:--[[User:Sebastien Bailard|Sebastien Bailard]] 08:32, 28 July 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
=Re: whether this is a problem or not=<br />
In General most (normal) users dont care about building a 3D printer, that is not their goal, they want to print 3D. <br><br />
--Camiel.<br />
<br />
Camiel, you statement depends entirely on who *you* consider "normal". I personally think there is no "normal", and would not like to impose restrictions on people without at least making them aware of the choices they are making. Eg: If a user wants a non-replicating printer, then that's OK, but it's not a 'RepRap', it's a 'RepStrap'. In this particular case, your 'Orca' 3D printer is clearly moving toward the latter category( ie RepStrap), by your own admission... and that *will* be a concern for some people, so it's best that they be informed about it up-front. <br />
--Buzz. ( Core Reprap team member, and Wiki Admin ).<br />
<br />
I think Camiel is right, even if this might be a somewhat disappointing aspect of a developer community. Regarding the design, I consider the Orca to be a step back in terms of replicatability compared to a Prusa, but a step forward compared to an industry-only design like Gen6 electronics. At least we have a _chance_ to improve the Orca to be as printable as current state-of-the-art designs.<br />
--[[User:Traumflug|Traumflug]] 07:48, 13 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br><br />
Something else I want to explain for once: running a production line of 6 or more printers is something else then having 1 or 2 printers.<br><br />
We run in completely different problems, we find alot more issues etc. Printing 18h each day on 10 printers, or printing 18h a week on one printer is totally not comparable.<br><br />
<br><br />
<br />
== Dependence on the lasercut parts, different materials, milling? ==<br />
<br />
How is the design of orca made in respect to dependence on the big lasercut parts?<br />
<br />
The smaller alu pieces should be doable with a cnc router, which are quite common, (well at least I have a small one) but the larger pieces would have to be made on something bigger.<br />
<br />
But getting access to a high end laser cutter which can do aluminum isn't that easy either, so what about plywood or other materials? --[[User:ElectricMucus|ElectricMucus]] 20:08, 29 July 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Assuming New => Improved ==<br />
<br />
: "Since it is brand new, it is '''almost certainly''' an improvement on '''most''' previous machines."<br />
<br />
::This claim is sufficiently outrageous to distract me from figuring out whether the design is, in fact, an <br />
::improvement. <br />
::--[[User:Garthk|Garthk]]<br />
::I think you'd be better off pointing to a list of advantages and disadvantages.<br />
:::Hmmm ... I've pointed '''almost certainly''' at [[Orca#Benefits_of_this_Design]]. That may help.<br />
:::--[[User:Sebastien Bailard|Sebastien Bailard]] 05:15, 13 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
:::: This '''brand new = certainly improved''' seems like just another way of expressing that they think, they are doing something better than everyone else. <br />
::::Isn't this an open-sourced project where ideas & design progress? If yes then: newer ideas tend to have improvement, are often unique, <br />
::::offer viewpoints that are different, add to the knowledge base, benifit the whole community, and yes even provide opprotunities for profit.<br />
:::: However, as I have followed Ocra it has seemingly more and more statements like this one which, seem like a superiority marketing ploy instead of<br />
::::development.<br />
::::In a few months there will be other ideas and project that are Brand new and almost certainly better than ocra or any other reprap but we dont need<br />
::::that bragging here in the reprap community. <br />
::::From what I have observed the reprap project continues to move forward not just because it is a marketable (it wouldn't be opensource if Adrian wanted just money)<br />
::::But that it has a community, members that are imperfect but with great ideas, projects that everyone learns from (hence the whole wiki), different development<br />
::::directions / lines, people that love it, and a huge potential.<br />
::::<br />
::::While at the same time I digress, there have been those that wanted to do things differently and focus on business, and get irritated at the community for not <br />
::::thinking the same.(sound like makerbot anyone?) But hey having a business outlook is a great thing but thats where you get a machine that doesnt change every <br />
::::month and you charge $20,000+ <br />
::::<br />
::::As a post note though I love what you've done to makeOcra, but that doesn't instantly make you perfect... yet. (you can still work on that, we all can)<br />
::::----[[User:Dfk20012002|Dfk20012002]] 08:35, 13 August 2011 (UTC)</div>Dfk20012002https://reprap.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Talk:Orca_v020&diff=39637Talk:Orca v0202011-08-13T08:32:39Z<p>Dfk20012002: new = better discussion</p>
<hr />
<div>New Users, please beware that "Orca" is:<br><br />
=Re: it's "Experimental status:= <br />
* experimental - it's only been produced at Mendel-Parts ( a commercial outfit), and has not been indepenantly verified as to its capabilities, quality, repeatability, etc.<br />
--Buzz ( Core Reprap team member, and Wiki Admin ).<br />
* not experimental anymore - its been produced on alot of locations already *also outside Mendel-Parts*.<br />
10+ users (most indepently from Mendel-Parts.com ) have verified its capabilities, quality, repeatibility.<br />
And they were very happy and very impressed, they like Orca much, much more then Mendels, building/working/printing with it etc.<br />
For that reason we yesterday decided to remove the experimental note, however some reprap users dont agree <br />
and put the above message on this page today, simply put: <br />
I hate politics, but if you change this page, make sure you know what you are talking about!<br />
--Camiel<br />
<br />
:Buzz, Camiel, I've changed the scare text at the top of [[Orca]] a bit. I've left the issue that<br />
:we as a wider community (7B minus 10 people) don't know much about it, yet, and that it needs <br />
:further evaluation and isn't considered 'perfect' yet. <br />
:<br />
:I've changed the pejorative "it's an ideologically impure RepStrap" to<br />
:a more neutral "it has laser cut parts along with 3d printed ones". Interested<br />
:folk can read the follow up on this page to decide for themselves if this is good or bad.<br />
:<br />
:I deleted the "only one entrepreneur currently selling them"; since we're not using that<br />
:text to warn new folk about the other RepStraps and electronics which are single-supplier.<br />
:Interested folk can quickly get a sense of Camiel's positive reputation using forum/irc.<br />
:<br />
:The new text is wordier than the old; it is tricky to convey nuance and context regarding <br />
:"this machine is somewhat untested."<br />
:--[[User:Sebastien Bailard|Sebastien Bailard]] 08:17, 28 July 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
=(I like it)=<br />
::I justly choose the Orca to test it during the "Bootcamp FabLab/Reprap Build Party" that happened in Barcelona recently (where Camiel brought the machines himself)<br />
::We had two weeks to build 3 Orca (while I teach them how to use a reprap) and print as much things as we can.<br />
::If pictures are worth many words look at what we've done : [http://www.flickr.com/photos/watsdesign/sets/72157627170609560/ Bootcamp FabLab Barcelona] (the 6 students never heard of the reprap before this workshop ^^)<br />
::I plan to write a detailed reviewed of this machine (and the questions raised here) and post a link, but in short: it have many interesting points and some that we can improve, but I think it's good (and I say that with the experience of building a Sells Mendel and a Prusa).<br />
::Also, thanks Sebastien, I feel more comfortable with this more neutral edition<br />
::--[[User:Emmanuel|Emmanuel]] 17:44, 28 July 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
=Re: whether it';s a "true reprap" or not: =<br />
* not entirely a Reprap ( ie it is not self-replicating ) as it currently requires approximately 20+ laser-cut parts in order to be assembled, and we can not yet print laser-cutters. Mendel and Darwin did not "require" a laser-cutter. I've personally made two Mendels, and never was a laser-cutter used at all. :-( <br />
--Buzz ( Core Reprap team member, and Wiki Admin ).<br />
(Standard) Mendels also needs lasercut parts, (if you need 5, you also need a lasercuter.. and we cannot print those).<br><br />
But I dont have time to play this game, some people work for a better world, some people just like to complain..<br />
--Camiel.<br />
* Alt. to using a lasercutter as main manufacturing method of mentioned parts. <br />
Could be to use electroetching ([http://reprap.org/wiki/Metal_Etching_Scriber wiki]/[http://forums.reprap.org/read.php?1,90990 forum-thread]/[http://www.aardvark.co.nz/pjet/makevalves1.pdf .pdf]/[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEnNMTMZadw video]) ?<br />
I guess a sufficiently advanced reprap-entity and/or relation between biological/technological entities could utilize some fluids, sweat and tears from the first and "a bit" of electricity from the latter to make some offspring. Hm.. I guess that could be interpreted wrongly.<br />
--danielpublic<br />
* Buzz, do you really want to claim that any machine that uses a laser cutter to make some of its parts is not a RepRap? By that standard a Mendel is not a RepRap (most instances use several laser cut boards). The about page contains the following definition: ''RepRap - n. any free rapid prototyping machine that can manufacture a significant fraction of its own parts...'' It says nothing about not requiring a laser cutter. The Orca is certainly capable of manufacturing a significant fraction of its own parts and thus qualifies as a RepRap (assuming it is freely producible by others).<br />
--madscifi<br />
* to madscifi, I'm just trying to make people aware of the fact that if they choose this machine, then they are choosing a machine that is *less self-replicating* than the current state-of-the-art Prussa/Sells style machines. For some people this is not important at all, for some others, it's incredibly important. We have no way to know in-advance who falls into which category, so the best approach is to make sure that everyone is properly informed before they made their decision, and then they have no one to blame but themselves. <br />
I personally like to think that you should need nothing more than common hand-tools to make a reprap, so it becomes much more accessable to a much larger audience of users. Although I don't claim that any machine that uses a laser cutter to make some of its parts is not a RepRap it is true that making it compulsory makes these machine/s les-replicable, less repeatable, less accessable, etc.<br />
The standard Mendel is totally a RepRap, because it does not need laser cut parts ( they are 100 optional, being easily cut-out with a hand saw instead). Other derivatives, like a [[LaserCut_Mendel]] are not strictly "reprap", they are "repstrap", because they are made mostly of laser-cut parts, and can not themselves cut wih a laser ( that would be cool if they could though). <br />
--Buzz<br />
<br />
=Re: whether the design is in need of change=<br />
The Core reprap team hope that both the above issues will be resolved soon, and are pleased to see another RepRap variation taking shape, but it's early-days for this new design, and if you want a tried-and-tested model, we currently recommend either a "Prusa Mendel" or a "Classic/Sells Mendel", not this one. Please also note that there is currently only one supplier of parts for this model, and they are a commercial outfit. ( That may suit you, as support should be better, or it may concern you, as it potentially means increased vendor lock-in).<br><br />
--Buzz ( Core Reprap team member, and Wiki Admin ).<br />
We @ mendel-parts.com recommend Orca over the standard Mendel, because its so much easier to build, to work on / better manual etc.. <br />
in short: people are much more happy with an Orca, it prints better and is faster to setup (user comments, not my comment).<br />
--Camiel.<br />
<br />
:I'm not sure how vendor lock-in is a concern. The machine is open source. <br />
:Regarding the lasercut aspect. Many folk in developed countries have a local <br />
:lasercutting job shop. And they've got access to ebay and reprap's marketplace.<br />
:If [[Orca]] takes off, it's a moment's work to add a lasercut parts marketplace subforum to our forum, <br />
:and a orca lasercut parts suppliers wiki page.<br />
:<br />
:Orca may indeed work well for hackerspaces that have a lasercutter handy or who put in a bulk order with <br />
:a local job shop / the internet.<br />
:--[[User:Sebastien Bailard|Sebastien Bailard]] 08:32, 28 July 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
=Re: whether this is a problem or not=<br />
In General most (normal) users dont care about building a 3D printer, that is not their goal, they want to print 3D. <br><br />
--Camiel.<br />
<br />
Camiel, you statement depends entirely on who *you* consider "normal". I personally think there is no "normal", and would not like to impose restrictions on people without at least making them aware of the choices they are making. Eg: If a user wants a non-replicating printer, then that's OK, but it's not a 'RepRap', it's a 'RepStrap'. In this particular case, your 'Orca' 3D printer is clearly moving toward the latter category( ie RepStrap), by your own admission... and that *will* be a concern for some people, so it's best that they be informed about it up-front. <br />
--Buzz. ( Core Reprap team member, and Wiki Admin ).<br />
<br />
I think Camiel is right, even if this might be a somewhat disappointing aspect of a developer community. Regarding the design, I consider the Orca to be a step back in terms of replicatability compared to a Prusa, but a step forward compared to an industry-only design like Gen6 electronics. At least we have a _chance_ to improve the Orca to be as printable as current state-of-the-art designs.<br />
--[[User:Traumflug|Traumflug]] 07:48, 13 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br><br />
Something else I want to explain for once: running a production line of 6 or more printers is something else then having 1 or 2 printers.<br><br />
We run in completely different problems, we find alot more issues etc. Printing 18h each day on 10 printers, or printing 18h a week on one printer is totally not comparable.<br><br />
<br><br />
<br />
== Dependence on the lasercut parts, different materials, milling? ==<br />
<br />
How is the design of orca made in respect to dependence on the big lasercut parts?<br />
<br />
The smaller alu pieces should be doable with a cnc router, which are quite common, (well at least I have a small one) but the larger pieces would have to be made on something bigger.<br />
<br />
But getting access to a high end laser cutter which can do aluminum isn't that easy either, so what about plywood or other materials? --[[User:ElectricMucus|ElectricMucus]] 20:08, 29 July 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Assuming New => Improved ==<br />
<br />
: "Since it is brand new, it is '''almost certainly''' an improvement on '''most''' previous machines."<br />
<br />
::This claim is sufficiently outrageous to distract me from figuring out whether the design is, in fact, an <br />
::improvement. <br />
::--[[User:Garthk|Garthk]]<br />
::I think you'd be better off pointing to a list of advantages and disadvantages.<br />
:::Hmmm ... I've pointed '''almost certainly''' at [[Orca#Benefits_of_this_Design]]. That may help.<br />
:::--[[User:Sebastien Bailard|Sebastien Bailard]] 05:15, 13 August 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
:::: This '''brand new = certainly improved''' seems like just another way of expressing that they think, they are doing something better than everyone else. <br />
::::Isn't this an open-sourced project where ideas & design progress? If yes then: newer ideas tend to have improvement, they are often unique, <br />
::::viewpoints that are different, knowledge that is gained, additions that benifit the whole community, and yes even opprotunities for profit.<br />
:::: However, as I have followed Ocra it has seemingly more and more statements like this one which, seem like a superiority marketing ploy instead of<br />
::::development.<br />
::::In a few months there will be other ideas and project that are Brand new and almost certainly better than ocra or any other reprap but we dont need<br />
::::that bragging here in the reprap community. <br />
::::From what I have observed the reprap project continues to move forward not just because it is a marketable (it wouldn't be opensource if Adrian wanted just money)<br />
::::But that it has a community, members that are imperfect but with great ideas, projects that everyone learns from (hence the whole wiki), different development<br />
::::directions / lines, people that love it, and a huge potential.<br />
::::<br />
::::While at the same time I digress, there have been those that wanted to do things differently and focus on business, and get irritated at the community for not <br />
::::thinking the same.(sound like makerbot anyone?) But hey having a business outlook is a great thing but thats where you get a machine that doesnt change every <br />
::::month and you charge $20,000+ <br />
::::<br />
::::As a post note though I love what you've done to makeOcra, but that doesn't instantly make you perfect... yet. (you can still work on that, we all can)<br />
::::--[[User:dfk20012002|dfk20012002]] 10:19, 13 August 2011(UTC)</div>Dfk20012002https://reprap.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=User:Dfk20012002&diff=39626User:Dfk200120022011-08-13T04:41:21Z<p>Dfk20012002: Updating profile info, might need to move to new page soon But I will do that after aug 16th and might start a blog for some less relevant data</p>
<hr />
<div>Reprap kits sold from Southern Alberta, Available fall 2011.<br />
<br />
(hopefully by Oct 2011)<br />
I will have kits, parts, and complete repraps for sale as soon as I am finished developing my current reprap.<br />
But since it is a pain getting parts here in Alberta(as I had to import almost all my stuff)once I get up and running,<br />
I am willing to cut a price break to anyone who lives in Alberta. But that requires me getting this done quick.<br />
<br />
If you do live in alberta or want to be contacted when this stuff goes down <br />
(cause I will only have enough for about 40kits to start)<br />
<br />
Contact me at:dafoxco@gmail.com<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
But in the mean time, Here is info about me, my goals, status<br />
<br />
== Profile ==<br />
(Yes I know, Not everyone likes to be Profiled, but it does help the police find people.)<br />
*'''Name:''' David<br />
*'''Age:''' 24<br />
*'''Country:''' Canada<br />
*'''Province:''' Alberta<br />
*'''City:''' Lethbridge (As if you couldn't get that from my University)<br />
*'''Schooling:''' Currently attending the University of Lethbridge.<br />
*'''Field of Study:''' Combined Computer Science and Business Management w/ Minor in Information Systems.<br />
:::(sounds busy doesn't it?)<br />
*'''Likes:''' almost all Food, Computers, Robotics, Woodworking, Challenges I can learn from, Girls (Of Course).<br />
*'''Dislikes:''' People who willingly cease to use their brains for thought, or anything useful for that matter.<br />
:::Note:''Please donate unused brains to your nearest starving Zombie''<br />
*'''Future Aspirations:''' To start my own technology development company/school. (aka to be a modern day inventor, that actually gets paid)<br />
<br />
<br />
== My Goals: ==<br />
*To build a RepStrap/CNC platform that has quickly Interchangeable/Multiple Tool-heads.<br />
*To contribute to the RepRap community, via wiki, and hopefully The sale of RepRaps kits/parts to help this community grow.<br />
*Learn More than what I already know.<br />
*To help in the development of a basic sewing machine / Embroidery attachment for the RepRap.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
== Current Status: ==<br />
'''Acquiring Parts / Starting to Assemble''' <br />
:Here is what I have so far:<br />
*'''Motors:''' <br />
:100 Sanyo Denki, Nema 17, Bi-Polar 6 wire stepper motors, Type: 102H5208-10U41 , 59oz-in holding torque.<br />
::with a 21 tooth MXL 1/4" wide pulley on each. Cost: ''PRICELESS steal!''<br />
::cost me $114 bucks for the whole lot. But, shipping and import fees where $165 so it came to $278<br />
::but $278/100 = $2.78 for each motor with shipping... hmmmm. these motors sell at $15-40 on ebay... ($60 new)<br />
::However, getting the data sheet for theses was a royal pain, even at that I still need to update it.<br />
:60 T&L International Stepping motor, Bi-Polar 6 wire stepping motor, Type: 42BYG401-06A, apx 31+oz-in holding torque<br />
::with a 28 tooth mxl 1/4 brass pulley on each. Cost: '''Almost''' a Priceless steal.<br />
::little bit more pricey about $300 with import fees<br />
::$300 / 60 = $5 each with shipping, but they still have a gear head and it is the same sad story on ebay $15-40<br />
::Now data on these was even harder to find but I have some and am going to make a cad scehmatic soon<br />
*'''The Brain (aka BRAINS! or motherboard for the non-Zombie fans):''' <br />
:I purchase a [http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/seeeduino-mega-p-717.html?cPath=132_133&zenid=61ee232a52bb9c8bc4c8ce011a544b3e "Seeedduino mega"] when it was on sale<br />
::I think it is are great so I am planning on using it(even if it is overkill). <br />
*'''Motor Drivers:''' <br />
:I bought components for [http://www.schmalzhaus.com/EasyDriver/ "EasyDrivers"] <br />
::They will provide 750mAmps at 30v per phase<br />
::you can buy them from Sparkfun.com but I wanted to make my own)<br />
*'''Structure (aka Frame):''' <br />
:8 Hardened steel rods I salvaged from a bunch of old printers for the slides (free - 2hrs salvage)<br />
:6 3ft 5/16 galvanized Threaded rods ($3 each, got them on sale at princess auto)<br />
:apx 20+ nuts ( DANG expensive at home depot, or home hardware at +$0.26 each, buy them at totem for $0.12 instead)<br />
:100+ 1/4 USS washers (+$0.12 each, so I bought a box of a hundred at $0.05 each instead.)<br />
:::USS type are NOT CONSISTENT IN THICKNESS(0.51" - 0.90"), they need presorting so they are 0.01" of eachother<br />
*'''Corners (aka the pieces that make those annoying angles):''' <br />
:I am cutting the intial ones out of 3/4 MDF which I will seal using wood hardener or glue-water mix.<br />
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So in essence My first reprap will actually be a repstrap/ wolfstrap since it uses wood, but hey it is cheaper than trying to buy the plastic parts since anyone I can find wants to charge a (explicit descriptive here) for them.<br />
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(The only reason this is not on a development page yet, is because I am still getting parts, taking pictures, procrastinating, assembling stuff, making excuses, writing essays)(OK, it is really cause I havent got to it yet, but I will as soon as summer semester is over (around Aug 16th)) <br />
Yay! --[[User:Sebastien Bailard|Sebastien Bailard]] 07:05, 11 April 2011 (UTC)</div>Dfk20012002https://reprap.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Talk:Generation_7_Electronics&diff=35114Talk:Generation 7 Electronics2011-06-05T20:12:07Z<p>Dfk20012002: </p>
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<div>(removed price info as it's out of date, please ask the vendor(s)) --[[User:Traumflug|Traumflug]] 22:05, 18 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Is it possible to move a connection for pins 26 and 27 to the same side as the misc pins 16-20? or even a spot right in front of them? so they can be used for other input/outputs, maybe by jumper to get over the rout for pin 30? --[[User:Dfk20012002|Dfk20012002]] 15:15, June 5 2011</div>Dfk20012002https://reprap.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Talk:Generation_7_Electronics&diff=35113Talk:Generation 7 Electronics2011-06-05T20:02:16Z<p>Dfk20012002: Move/add a connection on gen 7 electronics</p>
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<div>(removed price info as it's out of date, please ask the vendor(s)) --[[User:Traumflug|Traumflug]] 22:05, 18 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Is it possible to move a connection for pins 26 and 27 to the same side as the misc pins 16-20? so they can be used for other input/outputs, maybe by jumper to get over the rout for pin 30? --[[User:Dfk20012002|Dfk20012002]] 15:15, June 5 2011</div>Dfk20012002https://reprap.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Wildseyed&diff=31793User talk:Wildseyed2011-04-14T20:58:36Z<p>Dfk20012002: Created page with 'Can you add some pictures for your hot end?'</p>
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<div>Can you add some pictures for your hot end?</div>Dfk20012002https://reprap.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Talk:Materials&diff=31723Talk:Materials2011-04-14T01:59:08Z<p>Dfk20012002: Question about changes</p>
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<div>I had added LDF and HDF and change the title name of MDF to fiberboard, but before I create a page for each of them, I am wondering if all engineered woods should be merged into one section and with single page for them that covers the pros/cons of each in a lists with links to projects using, and more info?<br />
Or are we trying to stay away from sticking stuff in big comparison grids?<br />
Dfk20012002 April 13, 2011</div>Dfk20012002https://reprap.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Materials&diff=31722Materials2011-04-14T01:31:00Z<p>Dfk20012002: Added LDF HDF in fiberboards</p>
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<div>[[Category:Reference]] [[Category:Mendel Development]]<br />
Here is a list of parts and the materials used (or not used) on a RepRap [[Mendel]]. The goal here is to brainstorm new materials that are better, cheaper, easier to work, or easier to acquire, as well as to explain why particular materials succeed or fail. This page can also be used to judge the most successful materials used by the community. eventually maybe we can add some code so that we can vote for particular materials. In the meantime, just edit this page to add info or examples for both failures and successes.<br />
<br />
=Goals for this page=<br />
* a)List all materials used and the reason for use<br />
* b) List failed materials with reason/theory of failure<br />
* c)List untested but promising materials and explain their potential.<br />
<br />
=Metals=<br />
=== Steel ===<br />
Used to form the frame of [[Mendel]] and [[Eiffel]], as well as for [[Bearings]] and [[Fasteners]] (bolts/nuts/washers)<br />
* '''Galvanized''' cheaper than stainless<br />
* '''Stainless''' No corrosion<br />
* '''Carbon Steel''' cheapest, but rapidly corrodes unless painted or kept coated with oil.<br />
<br />
=== Copper ===<br />
<br />
The second-most-electrically-conductive metal, and so used in practically all [[:category:electronics]] PCBs and wires.<br />
<br />
=== Aluminum ===<br />
Advantages: lighter than steel and much stronger than plastic.<br />
Disadvantages: heavier than plastic and weaker than steel.<br />
<br />
=== Brass === <br />
Used for the nozzle, or "[[Hot End]]" of [[extruder]]s. Not sure why brass is used?<br><br />
quote from Team Open Air[http://teamopenair.net/wordpress/2010/07/23/glass-extruder-nozzles/]:<br />
<blockquote>The reason that people started off with copper and brass is because they are EXCELLENT conductors of heat, and we want the heat from the nichrome wire wrapped around the nozzle to be conducted inside to the plastic to melt it. However, with a thin, long cylinder it is very easy for the heat to move inward, even with an insulating material for the nozzle. But the copper and brass also carry it sideways a LONG ways, requiring a long rod of [[PTFE]] or other high temp plastic to isolate the heat of the nozzle from the [[Stepper Motor]] and any [[:category:electronics|electronics]].</blockquote><br />
<br />
=Plastics=<br />
==Thermoset==<br />
===[[Glossary#PEEK|PEEK]]===<br />
High temperature plastic, easily machined, less thermal creep than PTFE.<br />
===[[PTFE]]===<br />
[[PTFE]], also known as Teflon, is used in [[Extruder]] [[Hot End|Hot Ends]] (Nozzles) and [[:category: bowden Extruders|Bowden Extruders]] for its low friction.<br />
<br />
'''Caution''' PTFE gives of very toxic fumes when over heated.<br />
<br />
===[[BakeLite]]===<br />
High temperature plastic found in most kitchen saucepan, frying pan handles. First tried by Grogyan on his JunkStruder, material suggested by friend. Machineable, low thermal creep. Available everywhere. <br />
==[[:Category:Thermoplastic|Thermoplastics]]==<br />
Thermoplastics are extrudeable. (Unlike Thermo''set'' plastics.) <br />
===[[ABS]]===<br />
[[ABS]]: [[User:Nophead]] had some problems [http://hydraraptor.blogspot.com/2010/07/meltdown.html] with his [[Mendel X-axis]] carriage degrading from the heat coming off his extruder nozzle. suggests that low temp exposure will shorten the lifetime of extruded parts. reflective heat shield or fan might mitigate this issue, or a carriage design change that moves extruded parts away from the hot end.<br />
=== PET ===<br />
[[PET]]<br />
=== PLA ===<br />
[[PLA]]<br />
<br />
=== other melty materials ===<br />
<br />
* water ice ([[IceRap]]) (it's technically not a plastic, but it melts when you heat it like all thermoplastics ...)<br />
<br />
=Wood=<br />
<br />
: ''For all pages tagged "wood", see [[:category:wood]]''<br />
<br />
== lumber ==<br />
<br />
*[[WolfStrap-English|WolfStrap]] -- lots of 18x45mm and 18x70mm softwood lumber (so-called 1x3 and 1x4 softwood lumber can be substituted)<br />
*[[Wooden Mendel]]<br />
* [[Trystan's Wooden Mendel]]<br />
* [[Adesina - A Wooden Mendel RepStrap]]<br />
*<br />
<br />
== Fiberboard ==<br />
<br />
*[[LDF]] (low-density fiberboard) also called particle board, or fiberboard <br />
*[[MDF]] (medium-density fiberboard) <br />
*[[HDF]] (high-density fiberboard) also called hardboard<br />
<br />
== Plywood ==<br />
[[PlywoodRepRaps]]:<br />
*[[LaserCut Mendel]]<br />
*[[Delta]]<br />
*[[Pirated CupCake]]<br />
* [[WhiteAnt]]<br />
* [[Gunstrap]]<br />
*<br />
=Glass=<br />
When used as a bed parts come off very flat, but a [[Heated Bed]] might be required. [[User:Mike Bushroe]] has successfully made [[Glass Nozzles]]. [http://teamopenair.net/wordpress/2010/08/01/glass-nozzle-part-2/].<br />
*[[Glass Nozzles]]<br />
*[[heated_Bed#Glass|glass heated bed]]<br />
<br />
=[[Kapton]]=<br />
High temp tape used mainly to attach heater element to the extruder. perhaps could be replaced with PTFE heat shrink wire rap?<br />
<br />
'''Caution''' Kapton gives off noxious fumes from the adhesive, adhesive does drip onto barrel and nozzle, making it very icky.<br />
Available mostly everywhere.<br />
<br />
=[[Nichrome]]=<br />
Primary source for the heating mechanism of the extruder. Comes in two varieties, uninsulated (available mostly everywhere), insulated (fiberglass coated, difficult to acquire, if not impossible, locally).<br />
<br />
=Carbon Fiber=<br />
Carbon fiber rods and tubes in ~8mm diamater are available at mcmaster carr. They would be much lighter than steel and can be machined to similar tolerances. Steel will last longer, we must assume, but would CF Rods last long enough i.e. the life of the machine? They are cheaper as well. if true 8mm can be found in high tollernace, it would be a good experiment to try replacing the non-threaded rods with CF rod or tubing.<br />
<br />
McMaster Carr also has Hith temp CF, which might be useful in an extruder. presumably would not transmit heat like metals, but be easier to work than glass or ceramic, yet sturdier than PTFE.<br />
<br />
<h1>Materials by Part</h1><br />
=== Frame Materials ===<br />
: ''Main page: [[frame material]]''<br />
<br />
==== Frame Issues ====<br />
Any? Not Printable?<br />
<br />
=== Extruder Materials ===<br />
: ''Main page: [[:Category:Extruders]]''<br />
==== Extruder Issues ====<br />
<p>The design ethos of the extruder should be focused on using the fewest materials and skills to construct a extruder that works consistently with multiple materials. The extruder, being the heart of the machine, can end up being a complex part. However, it seems that the part is becoming more complex in order to solve an issue with the X carriage, not the extruder. </p><br />
<p>PEEK and PTFE are being used in order to protect the extruded carriage parts from the hot end. Would it be easier to construct an X carriage that doesn't melt? For example, perhaps an all metal or plaster cast carriage, or using wood to mount the extruder but having thermoplastic parts for the x-rail bearing mounts.</p><br />
<p>The standard X carriage, with the extruder hot end directly underneath, puts the carriage directly in the hot plume of the extruder. Mounting the hot end to the side of the carriage is better but can reduce build area slightly, but could be minimized by mounting the x axis rails one-above-the-other instead of side-by-side.</p><br />
<br />
=== bed materials ===<br />
: ''Main page: [[bed material]]''<br />
<br />
==External Links==<br />
[http://www.mcmaster.com/#8477kac/=8uesfl More on Glass, Ceramics, and Carbon] from McMaster-Carr. Mechanical and Physical Properties of various materials. VERY USEFUL(PDF is copyrighted, so just a link).<br />
<br />
[[category:developments by material]]<br />
[[category:material]]<br />
[[category:reference]]</div>Dfk20012002https://reprap.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Materials&diff=31721Materials2011-04-14T01:27:19Z<p>Dfk20012002: </p>
<hr />
<div>[[Category:Reference]] [[Category:Mendel Development]]<br />
Here is a list of parts and the materials used (or not used) on a RepRap [[Mendel]]. The goal here is to brainstorm new materials that are better, cheaper, easier to work, or easier to acquire, as well as to explain why particular materials succeed or fail. This page can also be used to judge the most successful materials used by the community. eventually maybe we can add some code so that we can vote for particular materials. In the meantime, just edit this page to add info or examples for both failures and successes.<br />
<br />
=Goals for this page=<br />
* a)List all materials used and the reason for use<br />
* b) List failed materials with reason/theory of failure<br />
* c)List untested but promising materials and explain their potential.<br />
<br />
=Metals=<br />
=== Steel ===<br />
Used to form the frame of [[Mendel]] and [[Eiffel]], as well as for [[Bearings]] and [[Fasteners]] (bolts/nuts/washers)<br />
* '''Galvanized''' cheaper than stainless<br />
* '''Stainless''' No corrosion<br />
* '''Carbon Steel''' cheapest, but rapidly corrodes unless painted or kept coated with oil.<br />
<br />
=== Copper ===<br />
<br />
The second-most-electrically-conductive metal, and so used in practically all [[:category:electronics]] PCBs and wires.<br />
<br />
=== Aluminum ===<br />
Advantages: lighter than steel and much stronger than plastic.<br />
Disadvantages: heavier than plastic and weaker than steel.<br />
<br />
=== Brass === <br />
Used for the nozzle, or "[[Hot End]]" of [[extruder]]s. Not sure why brass is used?<br><br />
quote from Team Open Air[http://teamopenair.net/wordpress/2010/07/23/glass-extruder-nozzles/]:<br />
<blockquote>The reason that people started off with copper and brass is because they are EXCELLENT conductors of heat, and we want the heat from the nichrome wire wrapped around the nozzle to be conducted inside to the plastic to melt it. However, with a thin, long cylinder it is very easy for the heat to move inward, even with an insulating material for the nozzle. But the copper and brass also carry it sideways a LONG ways, requiring a long rod of [[PTFE]] or other high temp plastic to isolate the heat of the nozzle from the [[Stepper Motor]] and any [[:category:electronics|electronics]].</blockquote><br />
<br />
=Plastics=<br />
==Thermoset==<br />
===[[Glossary#PEEK|PEEK]]===<br />
High temperature plastic, easily machined, less thermal creep than PTFE.<br />
===[[PTFE]]===<br />
[[PTFE]], also known as Teflon, is used in [[Extruder]] [[Hot End|Hot Ends]] (Nozzles) and [[:category: bowden Extruders|Bowden Extruders]] for its low friction.<br />
<br />
'''Caution''' PTFE gives of very toxic fumes when over heated.<br />
<br />
===[[BakeLite]]===<br />
High temperature plastic found in most kitchen saucepan, frying pan handles. First tried by Grogyan on his JunkStruder, material suggested by friend. Machineable, low thermal creep. Available everywhere. <br />
==[[:Category:Thermoplastic|Thermoplastics]]==<br />
Thermoplastics are extrudeable. (Unlike Thermo''set'' plastics.) <br />
===[[ABS]]===<br />
[[ABS]]: [[User:Nophead]] had some problems [http://hydraraptor.blogspot.com/2010/07/meltdown.html] with his [[Mendel X-axis]] carriage degrading from the heat coming off his extruder nozzle. suggests that low temp exposure will shorten the lifetime of extruded parts. reflective heat shield or fan might mitigate this issue, or a carriage design change that moves extruded parts away from the hot end.<br />
=== PET ===<br />
[[PET]]<br />
=== PLA ===<br />
[[PLA]]<br />
<br />
=== other melty materials ===<br />
<br />
* water ice ([[IceRap]]) (it's technically not a plastic, but it melts when you heat it like all thermoplastics ...)<br />
<br />
=Wood=<br />
<br />
: ''For all pages tagged "wood", see [[:category:wood]]''<br />
<br />
== lumber ==<br />
<br />
*[[WolfStrap-English|WolfStrap]] -- lots of 18x45mm and 18x70mm softwood lumber (so-called 1x3 and 1x4 softwood lumber can be substituted)<br />
*[[Wooden Mendel]]<br />
* [[Trystan's Wooden Mendel]]<br />
* [[Adesina - A Wooden Mendel RepStrap]]<br />
*<br />
<br />
== Fiberboard ==<br />
<br />
[[LDF]] (low-density fiberboard) also called particle board, or fiberboard <br />
[[MDF]] (medium-density fiberboard)<br />
[[HDF]] (high-density fiberboard) also called hardboard<br />
<br />
== Plywood ==<br />
[[PlywoodRepRaps]]:<br />
*[[LaserCut Mendel]]<br />
*[[Delta]]<br />
*[[Pirated CupCake]]<br />
* [[WhiteAnt]]<br />
* [[Gunstrap]]<br />
*<br />
=Glass=<br />
When used as a bed parts come off very flat, but a [[Heated Bed]] might be required. [[User:Mike Bushroe]] has successfully made [[Glass Nozzles]]. [http://teamopenair.net/wordpress/2010/08/01/glass-nozzle-part-2/].<br />
*[[Glass Nozzles]]<br />
*[[heated_Bed#Glass|glass heated bed]]<br />
<br />
=[[Kapton]]=<br />
High temp tape used mainly to attach heater element to the extruder. perhaps could be replaced with PTFE heat shrink wire rap?<br />
<br />
'''Caution''' Kapton gives off noxious fumes from the adhesive, adhesive does drip onto barrel and nozzle, making it very icky.<br />
Available mostly everywhere.<br />
<br />
=[[Nichrome]]=<br />
Primary source for the heating mechanism of the extruder. Comes in two varieties, uninsulated (available mostly everywhere), insulated (fiberglass coated, difficult to acquire, if not impossible, locally).<br />
<br />
=Carbon Fiber=<br />
Carbon fiber rods and tubes in ~8mm diamater are available at mcmaster carr. They would be much lighter than steel and can be machined to similar tolerances. Steel will last longer, we must assume, but would CF Rods last long enough i.e. the life of the machine? They are cheaper as well. if true 8mm can be found in high tollernace, it would be a good experiment to try replacing the non-threaded rods with CF rod or tubing.<br />
<br />
McMaster Carr also has Hith temp CF, which might be useful in an extruder. presumably would not transmit heat like metals, but be easier to work than glass or ceramic, yet sturdier than PTFE.<br />
<br />
<h1>Materials by Part</h1><br />
=== Frame Materials ===<br />
: ''Main page: [[frame material]]''<br />
<br />
==== Frame Issues ====<br />
Any? Not Printable?<br />
<br />
=== Extruder Materials ===<br />
: ''Main page: [[:Category:Extruders]]''<br />
==== Extruder Issues ====<br />
<p>The design ethos of the extruder should be focused on using the fewest materials and skills to construct a extruder that works consistently with multiple materials. The extruder, being the heart of the machine, can end up being a complex part. However, it seems that the part is becoming more complex in order to solve an issue with the X carriage, not the extruder. </p><br />
<p>PEEK and PTFE are being used in order to protect the extruded carriage parts from the hot end. Would it be easier to construct an X carriage that doesn't melt? For example, perhaps an all metal or plaster cast carriage, or using wood to mount the extruder but having thermoplastic parts for the x-rail bearing mounts.</p><br />
<p>The standard X carriage, with the extruder hot end directly underneath, puts the carriage directly in the hot plume of the extruder. Mounting the hot end to the side of the carriage is better but can reduce build area slightly, but could be minimized by mounting the x axis rails one-above-the-other instead of side-by-side.</p><br />
<br />
=== bed materials ===<br />
: ''Main page: [[bed material]]''<br />
<br />
==External Links==<br />
[http://www.mcmaster.com/#8477kac/=8uesfl More on Glass, Ceramics, and Carbon] from McMaster-Carr. Mechanical and Physical Properties of various materials. VERY USEFUL(PDF is copyrighted, so just a link).<br />
<br />
[[category:developments by material]]<br />
[[category:material]]<br />
[[category:reference]]</div>Dfk20012002